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Thread ID: 90163	2008-05-25 03:30:00	Wireless networking	No1Daemon (13582)	Press F1

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672378	2008-05-25 03:30:00	Hi I recently purchased a netgear wireless modem/router. To get it working wirelessly I first connected the pc to the modem with an ethernet cable and got the internet adsl part working. I then ran the networking wizard and after that I was able to unplug the ethernet cable and work wirelessly. I could not get the connection to work wirelessly without the ethernet cable. Does anyone know what settings are put in place when the networking wizard is used? I ask because I have sold my old router and also the ethernet cabel and if anything happens to my current set up I will be up S creek without an ethernet cable to get it working again. I am not a master of ip addresses etc so if anyone could give me a step by step then I would appreciate it, or a link to some info already existing on the web. Thanks Steve	No1Daemon (13582)
672379	2008-05-25 03:54:00	Put the ip addresses in manually, like you would for ethernet (under the LAN properties / TCP/IP). Dont use the wizard. And if you want to get onto the internet, put your ISP server ip addresses in under preferred and alternate DNS (under the LAN properties / TCP/IP) Also dont forget to use WPA or WPA2 (if your router supports them, and your adapter). I take it you have more than 1 PC though?? The wireless is only used for the networked PC's not the main PC. The main PC should be connected to the router using ethernet. So you can log into the router's config.	Speedy Gonzales (78)
672380	2008-05-25 06:44:00	Put the ip addresses in manually, like you would for ethernet (under the LAN properties / TCP/IP) . And if you want to get onto the internet, put your ISP server ip addresses in under preferred and alternate DNS (under the LAN properties / TCP/IP) Can you explain a little about the ip addresses and subnets etc? My ISp gave me nothing becuase I have a dynamic ip and would need to pay to get a static one, which I don't want to do . Also dont forget to use WPA or WPA2 (if your router supports them, and your adapter) . Have done(Yeah I did something right) The wireless is only used for the networked PC's not the main PC . - No, It's the main pc because I wanted it to be wireless as in not even an ethernet cable The main PC should be connected to the router using ethernet . So you can log into the router's config . - Are you only able to log into the router via ethernet cable? Can you not do it wirelessly?	No1Daemon (13582)
672381	2008-05-25 07:05:00	Can you explain a little about the ip addresses and subnets etc? My ISp gave me nothing becuase I have a dynamic ip and would need to pay to get a static one, which I don't want to do . If there's ONLY 1 PC there, I wouldnt bother configuring or using wireless If youre using XP go to network connections / highlight your LAN connection / right mouse / properties . Then double click on TCP/IP . Whats here for your LAN ?? Its better if this is on use the following ip . This ip address is local (it has nothing to do whether youre on dynamic or static with your ISP) . Alongside IP address, give it a valid ip address (an ip in the range, your router supports) It should add the subnet for you . For preferred and alternate DNS server IP's, these should be on your ISP's site (wherever it shows how to configure dial-up or adsl) . But if the LAN is fine, dont change anything, but what you do for an ethernet connection, you do the same for wireless . - Are you only able to log into the router via ethernet cable? Can you not do it wirelessly? You got it, I dont think you can use wireless to login to the router . You can try Open IE and type in the ip for the router's config . Altho, this wont work, if wireless isnt enabled in the router . Which is why you'll need an ethernet cable to connect (from your LAN connection, to the router) . So, you can configure it for wireless, if its disabled by default . Also, even if u can use wireless to login to the router, if you use wireless (say if you update the firmware), if it doesnt work (or freezes), while youre updating firmware and you reboot, to fix it you'll probably kill the router . Which is why, the main PC should be connected to the router with an ethernet cable . And the wireless should only be enabled, if theres another PC there to connect to wirelessly .	Speedy Gonzales (78)
672382	2008-05-25 07:23:00	And the wireless is part of the router, not the computer (unless youve installed a PCI wireless card, or USB wireless adapter). So, if you dont have one of the above, you cant use wireless to connect to the router anyway. So if you removed the router in other words, you wont have wireless.	Speedy Gonzales (78)
672383	2008-05-25 08:18:00	You can connect to your router by wireless so long as it has been configured to work. The initial configuration must be made over a wire link, because it requires no configuration to either end to make a connection. Once the wireless link is up and running there is no need for a wire connection unless something goes wrong with the router settings. I know several people who have chosen to have their cable modem installed in the garage because the cable is intrusive being black and thick and stiff. They then connect by wireless to a wireless router placed along side the modem. If things go wrong with the wireless connection settings a wire connection has to be made to put things right.	jinja_thom (4306)
672384	2008-05-25 08:25:00	Somehow I dont think he's got a wireless adapter. Which obviously you'll need anyway. To connect to the router. By the looks of it, I think he thought the wireless from the router, would make the computer wireless (without the router). Which it wont. Since there is no mention of a wireless adapter or any other computer (to connect it to), in the 1st post	Speedy Gonzales (78)
672385	2008-05-25 08:34:00	You could be right, those first two sentences are a bit contradictory . .	jinja_thom (4306)
672386	2008-05-25 08:49:00	I agree, i believe No1Daemon wants to go wireless from his router to his main pc but obviously the main pc needs a wireless card and there's no mention of this. i think the most ideal and the usual setup is there's at least 1 wired pc and the wireless is for things like laptop or secondary pc's with a wireless card	Term_X (560)
672387	2008-05-25 13:43:00	I did not believe the router would make the pc wireless. I just never mentioned that I have a Broadcom 802.11g wireless adapter in my laptop. It is connected quite happily at the moment wirelessly with the netgear router/modem. I am also able to log into the router at the moment wirelessly, but I suspect that is only becuase I made the initial connection with the ethernet cable. I was just not sure if it was essential to have the cable for the initial connection. Now I have sold my original router I would need to look at buying an ethernet cable just in case something happens o my current connection, is that right? Thanks	No1Daemon (13582)
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