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Thread ID: 62728 2005-10-17 10:33:00 Sick of people smoking near public walk ways Eric (378) PC World Chat
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397193 2005-10-19 04:13:00 I found that the key to giving up smoking was realizing that "I can't" really means "I won't". Graham L (2)
397194 2005-10-19 05:41:00 Lol, you are aren't you James? I love your words of advice, gathered from years of experience i take it? Classic!
Am I being too childish and immature? :stare: :confused: :(
Renmoo (66)
397195 2005-10-19 06:01:00 Am I being too childish and immature? :stare: :confused: :(

No, James, you are not, but it is very very difficult for someone who is addicted to smoking and nicotine to actually stop, the difficulty is hard to understand for someone who is not addicted.

There are a few people who can stop smoking easily, but they have not necessarily become deeply addicted in the first place.

The first step, as with other drug/alcohol addictions, is to acknowledge the addiction, and to have a very real desire to stop.
Terry Porritt (14)
397196 2005-10-19 06:02:00 Am I being too childish and immature? :stare: :confused: :(

No, your not being childish or immature, Its just impossible to fake experience....
Metla (12)
397197 2005-10-19 06:07:00 I hate smoking,
I have never smoked, but lived a lot of my younger life in a house of second hand smoke . . . . . . i will not let this happen to my children .
We do prefer people to smoke outside, both outside our house and outisde of our motel units .
I will not demand people to stop smoking, but do reccomend they give up smoking as its long term aspects are not good .
i see the daily effects close at hand to know this .
I have a very close relative dying of emphysema, and 2 very dear friends dying of it too . I do not know what is worse, being the sufferer or watching the suffering . . . . . .
It does stop quality of life, it curbs family life, and it strikes from an early age, sometimes much earlier than most people realise . . . . . . . i have seen numerous emphysemia sufferers in the hospital wards when visiting friends and relatives . . . . . they youngest person i have seen with this disease is 36 . . . but by far the usual age is 50 - 80 + in the hospital . . . . smoking early on in life, with a family that smoke as well .
seeing the bleak look these people have, to fight for every breath .

I will endeaver to not be in an smoking environment, and instill non smoking in my children, - watching there faces in bewilderment when they cannot understand why their Pa is tubed and masked, and lying like death on the bed
and not knowing we are there is heartbreaking .

Maybe when you see someone this close to you dying for any reason, you will then think is it worth it? Life is too short, there is enough sadness in the world, ill health and poverty, isnt NZ about the clean green healthy place to live? :illogical

This is not meant to rant at anyone, or riddicule, belittle or hurt, but to make people aware, smoking is not a hot item to be doing, and the law is stupid, and people have choices, and sometimes they dont know till too late that they made the wrong one a long time ago . . . . .

:groan:

be at peace people .
It is each individuals choice, we do not have the right to force others to have the same choice and ideas made for them, or the right to enforce them .

:illogical

beetle
beetle (243)
397198 2005-10-19 06:12:00 Has anyone ever walked home beside traffic or walked over a motorway bridge at peak hours?
I tell you, the smell and pollution made there is far worse than what any smoker makes FAR WORSE! Especially when the exhaust pipe is pointed towards the footpaths :yuck:

And if someone wants to die early . LET THEM! Its their choice NOT OURS!
:2Cents:

*bob_doe_nz gets out a packet of marshmallows just in case . :p
Yep totally agrees with ya Bob . Smoke from vehicle exhausts are far more dangerous than ciggy smoke .
Mr Wetzyl (362)
397199 2005-10-19 06:41:00 Am I being too childish and immature? :stare: :confused: :(Just idealistic. It's up to people to give up if the want to, but for many its just not that easy leaving there comfort zones of habit, even if its a habit that may kill them and/or those close to them.

In the end it is an individuals choice, and we have to respect that.
personthingy (1670)
397200 2005-10-19 07:34:00 In the end it is an individuals choice, and we have to respect that.

Hear Hear!!! :thumbs:
olwyn (8088)
397201 2005-10-19 07:37:00 A query, why is it wrong to suck on a fag when its perfectly acceptable to suck off a fag? This government has all its morals screwed up!

Bishop Tamaki! I didn't know you posted on PF1!!!!
Ash M (46)
397202 2005-10-19 08:23:00 Am I being too childish and immature? :stare: :confused: :(No. If I was still smoking I would probably feel the same as those who had a go at your idealism. When stuck within an addiction you don't like to hear people who have no experience, telling you what they think should be happening.
As far as what stopped my habit, there were a few things. They were a five month stint of continuous asthma (yes, asthmatics smoke too) whilst acclimatising to the Taranaki cold, and my young daughter, who I wanted to make sure I was around for to be a father. I discovered that in order to be a playful caring father, you have to be able to breathe. I couldn't play with her as much as I wanted, because I couldn't breathe properly.

My partner still smokes, she does so away from our kid. I wish she wouldn't, but then its her choice. I hope she does give up one day, but in the meantime, I believe she may/will pick her own time, without any nagging, whinging etc from me
Myth (110)
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