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Thread ID: 62728	2005-10-17 10:33:00	Sick of people smoking near public walk ways	Eric (378)	PC World Chat

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397183	2005-10-18 08:46:00	Every other addictive drug has been heavely restricted, tabacco has only recently been restricted at all I'm waiting to see when caffiene will be classed as an addictive drug...	bob_doe_nz (92)
397184	2005-10-18 08:54:00	I'm waiting to see when caffiene will be classed as an addictive drug...It is too some extent, which is why cocacola, red bull etc have to state caffiene content	personthingy (1670)
397185	2005-10-18 11:45:00	At the risk of needing an asbestos flame suit, I agree with Eric As some on this forum already know, I have a malignant and highly agressive sinus cancer problem. Without doubt it is environmentally related according to the experts, and I have been subject to a lot of second hand smoke but have never smoked. The link will probably never be proven (it is presently under a nationwide study though), but I cannot now tolerate any cigarette smoke (probably due to the damage from radical radiation), even passing the groups of smokers on the footpath is unpleasant and causes extreme discomfort. Oddly enough smoke from a fire is less of a problem, which means its the chemicals in the tobacco I suppose. I would defend the right of a person to smoke however while it remains legal to do so, but not condone that person being permitted to expose anyone else to the effects in any environment. Even outside. I have just completed a further 6 week session for 2 hours every day in the hospital system. The car park was right outside the Maternity wing, and waiting in the car it was horrifying to see the number of pregnant women leaving the hospital building and immediately lighting up a cigarette. I don't mind them smoking either, but what about the future health of the child they carry? My father smoked all his life and died prematurely of arteriosclerosis, aggravated by years of smoking. My brother-in-law died of emphysema (sp?) that was directly related to a life of smoking. My sister died of a cancer that was also attributed to a life of smoking. These were not elderly people. Yet my mother, who was a "passive smoker most of her life" lived to an old age and never suffered any effects. And I know other elderly people that live(d) to an old age smoking all their life, so its a genetic predisposition I suspect. Its just that many of us obviously do not have that genetic protection. Caffiene is about all that gets me through the day....and it does not affect the people around me. 109Mg in a bottle of e2....please don't ban it!	godfather (25)
397186	2005-10-18 14:29:00	My father was one of 9, and 5 siblings died of various cancers - bone, liver, throat, lung, breast. Only 1 of them smoked. 1 had been a convent nun since the age of 17. I've nursed many with cancer, including my father. We attended a support group session where those with cancer and their families could get together. One of the topics mentioned was how many of them had experienced major stressful experiences, eg loss of a loved one, divorce, etc., within 2-3 years before the cancer appeared. My personal view is now leaning towards stress and empty or highly processed foods depriving the body of the ability to fight off disease. I would also ask of some outspoken anti-smoking individuals to be patient with those of us who still smoke. I have spent a lot of money on these supposedly surefire ways to stop smoking - 2 sessions [not in same year] of hypnosis [1 of which lasted 1 week till I threw a wobbly when someone wrecked my lawnmower, saw some smokes on a table and off I started again], have done the patches, acupuncture, nicobrevin, ISIS course. One of the ladies at ISIS was on her second go. She survived a year - until Xmas when her family came to stay. Was back on smokes within a few days. We don't set out to annoy people with our smoking. Many of us don't smoke near people without having to be asked or ordered not to.	MMM (5660)
397187	2005-10-18 18:43:00	I think the anti-smoking legislation has been taken a bit far, but it may help people to kick the habit. In lieu of having a heart attack, for those wanting to quit, I'd recommend visiting the local rest home or the rehab. ward at a hospital, and see how many old boys have had toes, feet, or legs amputated. [/url] Who says we all want to be forced to quit? And what do lower limbs being amputated have to do with anything? Most likely there are all diabetics with out of control sugar levels. And looking at other peoples illnesses never made anyone quit anything.	pctek (84)
397188	2005-10-18 20:05:00	....And looking at other peoples illnesses never made anyone quit anything.Really? Sometimes i think we do live in very different worlds pctek! The first drug i ever gave up was tabacco, not inspired by people with bits missing, but by realising that 2x50gr of drum a week = ½ my expendable income wasted. I looked at others doing the same low income factory job as i , and realised that the non smokers were getting toys far faster than i. I liked the idea of lots of toys more than the idea of smelling bad with a pointless nervious habit that catered to my selfdestructive streak. That was twenty something years ago that i gave up. TV was real easy to get under control, in my late teens i got a life instead. When Alcohol hit its peak in my life i had not long broken up with a wonderful woman, i was hurting inside, i got appallingly drunk, went to a party, got even drunker, and came back with broken ribs - i still don't know if i fell over, or if i annoyed someone who liked kicking people. I don't remember much of it at all. It was looking at long term heavy drinkers, and realised that that was the path i was on. This and the delicate broken ribcage created the reality check that led to me stopping drinking many years ago. What stopped me smoking pot was not getting busted for possession, cultivation, assault, etc, or the resulting holiday in the country, but coming out and not wanting to sacrifice my determination to acheive my somewhat delayed dreams. "I got stoned and i missed it" was not my song. I certainly had enough examples around me of useless bloody pot heads. If that's thier choice, so be it, but i needed to cultivate all my motivation, and focus on my dreams - not smoke pot instead. My release was about a year ago. I have remained focussed on putting my life back together, but get continually frustrated by useless bloody potheads who say they are going to do something, but don't. In all cases seeing the damage these drugs do to other people health and lifestyles was a contributing factor to giving them up myself. As for smoking, feel free, it's your death you are running towards, but please don't make me breath it too, i've got too much to live for.	personthingy (1670)
397189	2005-10-18 21:46:00	. . . . Who says we all want to be forced to quit? A classic case of denial and inability to read . I said "for those wanting to quit", if you dont want to quit smoking then that is your choice . If you don't know the connection between arterioclerosis, and blocked blood flow to the lower limbs resulting in gangrene, then maybe it is about time to read up about it, and all the other nasties you get from smoking, as I say, a classic case of denial . But I am not 'forcing' anyone or you pctek to stop . I know full well the power of nicotine addiction, and how difficult it is for those that want to stop smoking .	Terry Porritt (14)
397190	2005-10-18 23:21:00	Yeah, I understand that smoking is addictive, just like a person's passion for love. However, you need to tell your ownself that smoking will not bring you whatsoever benefits at all. Think about your health and your future. Seek help from a professional or learn how to change your lifestyle to exclude smoking as part of your daily activities. Tell a friend about your difficulty in controlling your addiction and tell them to stop you whenever you are about to light a cigarette. Get a nicotine patch etc. I sincerely do hope that you will not lift up another cigarette again. what are you, 12? Lol, you are aren't you James? I love your words of advice, gathered from years of experience i take it? Classic! When you try your first beer and discover the added pleasure of accompanying it with a ciggie you will find out just how easy the addiction is. Mmmm, beer and cigarettes. A query, why is it wrong to suck on a fag when its perfectly acceptable to suck off a fag? This government has all its morals screwed up!	Veale (536)
397191	2005-10-19 03:44:00	The only thing that annoys me is someone smoking over my keyboard. Have to pick it up and give it a good shake several times a day. And then listen to a blast about spreading ash over the carpet. The story about ash keeping the moths out of the carpet doesn't work anymore.	JJJJJ (528)
397192	2005-10-19 04:09:00	A query, why is it wrong to suck on a fag when its perfectly acceptable to suck off a fag? This government has all its morals screwed up! It perfectly legal to do either, so long as no-one else gets unwillingly dragged into your activities In the works of an old forgotten Auckland band i was just listening to: "Do what you want elsewhere, but don't do that near me."	personthingy (1670)
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