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Thread ID: 63049 2005-10-27 18:43:00 Halloween - yes or no? Peterj116 (6762) PC World Chat
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399838 2005-10-30 01:35:00 I promise! My LAST post on this subject...unless something sparkle-y catches my attention.............

Here's an article from MS/NBC about the psychological shock on small children concerning Halloween: www.msnbc.msn.com
SurferJoe46 (51)
399839 2005-10-30 02:23:00 Have to toughen the kids up somehow, Wouldn't wan't my son reared in cotton wool. Metla (12)
399840 2005-10-30 02:44:00 I can't resist posting this news item, and also the comment "where else could this happen?" Where else indeed :thumbs:

news.bbc.co.uk
Terry Porritt (14)
399841 2005-10-30 03:11:00 ......just goes to show the diminishment of life and the value of it that is brought about by such "festivities" I guess the Incas who tore the hearts outta virgins and then let them watch the priest eat it before they died lost it's shock value too after it had been done a few hundred times. Dem good ol' days! SurferJoe46 (51)
399842 2005-10-30 04:51:00 Life has always been cheap. Metla (12)
399843 2005-10-30 05:10:00 ... I guess the Incas who tore the hearts outta virgins and then let them watch the priest eat it before they died lost it's shock value too after it had been done a few hundred times. Not to be pedantic or anything (:p), but if someone had their heart ripped out, they would die immediately - not stick around for a bit to watch a priest munch on their hearts. :rolleyes: Jen (38)
399844 2005-10-30 08:08:00 Agree with all those points, it's just another Americanism that must have come here at some time. Never heard of "trick or treat" in UK, at least not south of a line Birmingham to the Wash pressf1.pcworld.co.nz

I have to admit that we are among quite a few people whom pretend to be out for Halloween.

Wondering how long it will be before we celebrate Thanksgiving and July the 4th for that matter.

OTOH Are we so ingrained in "our" culture that we can't appreciate others?

Having lived in Australia in Sydney it was a routine thing to see signs up at the local garage in Japanese. This did not upset me as I knew there was a Japanese School not far away.

You might consider Howick in Auckland where there is such a large Asian population it is often called "Chowick".

Fairly recently I went to Auckland for a show and while walking down Queen St I had the feeling that I may as well be in Tokoyo.

Take our celebration coming up next Saturday with Guy Fawkes. This celebration was handed down to us from the "Mother Country" as it were. Crackers got banned a while back which took all the fun out of for me. Why did we celebrate that in the first place anyway? Guy Fawkes was a person who was dragged into the gunpowder plot by 12 other people.This would be termed high treason in those days. The idea was to kill the King.In the early 1600s as I remember. (No I was nt there!) I personally would like to have fireworks set off on Waitangi day rather than Nov 5th
Elephant (599)
399845 2005-10-30 09:24:00 Wondering how long it will be before we celebrate Thanksgiving and July the 4th for that matter.
I've been invited to a Thanksgiving party next month with some American friends. Should be fun. :D
Mackin_NZ (6958)
399846 2005-10-30 16:04:00 I think that if we go back far enough, then we will find that "Easter" and "All hallows eve" were great pagen celebrations of the equanox, or the turn of the seasons. Easter was a celebration of fertility, new life, Spring, EGGS WERE USED to symbolise this. All hallows eve was about the return to winter, We dressed for the dark times ahead. We have to remember that these were traditions started in the Northern hemispere, where everything is backward from us.

Now various attachments have been made to these traditions, including the obvious one Christianity tacked on to Easter. Nowadays we have the great western religon of commercialised BSism where these events, along with Xmas are far more about overspending on the creditcard than any prior meaning.

Personally i wont celebrate any. They are not about giving, they are about the expectations to be given to, or in other words, they celebrate the joy of taking through exploiting a sense of obligation.

I only give when:
-- I feel like it
-- I see the perfect gift for someone
-- It's actually going to make a positive difference to someone

I never give because some tradition says that on X day i have to sell my soul to buy a pile of inapropriate gifts for people. I've never appreciated Xmas gifts as they are allmost never useful to me. Its just another obligation forfulled. Those who wish to buy me gifts for any set occation are relieved of duty. Nor will i buy rubbish for you :p Anyone "trick or treating" at my door will be ignored furiously. :2cents:
personthingy (1670)
399847 2005-10-30 16:44:00 Not to be pedantic or anything (:p), but if someone had their heart ripped out, they would die immediately - not stick around for a bit to watch a priest munch on their hearts . :rolleyes:

Not quite Jen .

The French guillotine had the same effect when someone's head was cut off . The executioner held the head up and the eyes would roll about in disbelief and the mouth would try to form words . . . at least for a few moments .

Death does not instantly arrive at the removal of the heart or the head . Remember that after a heart is removed, there is enough oxygen still entrapped in the blood vessels to support life for a few moments . :nerd:
SurferJoe46 (51)
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