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| Thread ID: 63163 | 2005-10-31 19:23:00 | Xtra have dropped their broadband prices | Shortcircuit (1666) | PC World Chat |
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| 400701 | 2005-10-31 23:46:00 | I would be more impressed if they increases there upload speed then removing caps... I agree stu. |
Mr Wetzyl (362) | ||
| 400702 | 2005-11-01 00:35:00 | I would be more impressed if they increases there upload speed then removing caps ( & if you look around the world like in the UK & OZ they still have caps they are just a bit bigger then what we have.I would be even more impressed if they removed the cap, increased the up and download speed to match that of oversea countries, and lowered the price further. :D ... doesn't look like it's going to happen in the next few years ay. That's not to much to ask for is it? :blush: |
techie (7177) | ||
| 400703 | 2005-11-01 02:53:00 | <snip>I would be even more impressed if they removed the cap</snip> LOL haha, you must be joking they will never remove the caps, that all thanks to the P2P & other files shear Programs & the people who download 30 – 60 GB’s month Bandwidth = $$$ |
stu161204 (123) | ||
| 400704 | 2005-11-01 04:41:00 | Bandwidth dosen't cost that much stu. The UK would have plenty of extremely heavy users, yet they manage to have no caps | Edward (31) | ||
| 400705 | 2005-11-01 04:59:00 | Bandwidth dosen't cost that much stu. The UK would have plenty of extremely heavy users, yet they manage to have no caps yeath but you forget that we are a small island with a small number of people compared to the UK etc… & getting Bandwidth to us is costly as well. |
stu161204 (123) | ||
| 400706 | 2005-11-01 05:49:00 | LOL haha, you must be joking they will never remove the caps, that all thanks to the P2P & other files shear Programs & the people who download 30 – 60 GB’s month Bandwidth = $$$ There were a bunch of letters in the Herald today about this. Heaps of overseas people writing in all horrified. One in canada for instance asked his ISP as they didn't mention a cap and was told if he exceeded 500Gb they'd ring him to discuss plan chnages. Now thats a cap. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 400707 | 2005-11-01 10:41:00 | I agree stu.Ditto | Greg (193) | ||
| 400708 | 2005-11-01 11:17:00 | It will be interesting to see what the other ISP do nowProbably not a helluva a lot . You gotta remember that for every UBS customer an ISP has, they're paying around $30 odd (iirc) per customer to Telecom for the privilege of providing the line termination . The further the customer lives from the datacentre of the ISP in question, the more Telecom charge them in backhaul costs . So for an Auckland based ISP, they pay more to Telecom for their Wgtn/Chch/Dunedin customers than they do for their Auckland ones . It doesn't leave a lot of room to cover the other costs like support, accounts processing, data transit domestically and internationally, virus scanning, spam filtering, e-mail addresses, network infrastructure, skilled staff, call-out rates for faults etc etc etc . Couple that with the fact that most providers are buying their International transit off TelstraClear, or Global-Gateway (which is basically Telecom) so they are paying more than Xtra for those services as well . www . ispmap . co . nz/topmap . html might draw a picture for those struggling to understand . yeath but you forget that we are a small island with a small number of people compared to the UK etc… & getting Bandwidth to us is costly as well . Very astute, and very true . That's why providers in NZ tend to differentiate between national and international transit . In America and other large continental countries, "the internet" is mostly national transit, so costs are incredibly low due to efficient peering, better network access etc . In New Zealand, aside from a smattering of large volume sites (Stuff, Trademe, NZDating being the biggies - thank God for peering) the rest of "the internet" is overseas and thus of much higher cost to obtain . We base our calculations on ~66% of all traffic being Intl and 33% being national on our network, however the rapid rise in torrent traffic over the last 12 months is starting to skew that figure . It ain't all beer, skittles and crappy rented ferraris (orcon dig) in the ISP world . </rant> |
ninja (1671) | ||
| 400709 | 2005-11-01 19:29:00 | Snipped So for an Auckland based ISP, they pay more to Telecom for their Wgtn/Chch/Dunedin customers than they do for their Auckland ones. It doesn't leave a lot of room to cover the other costs like support, accounts processing, data transit domestically and internationally, virus scanning, spam filtering, e-mail addresses, network infrastructure, skilled staff, call-out rates for faults etc etc etc. www.ispmap.co.nz/topmap.html might draw a picture for those struggling to understand. It ain't all beer, skittles and crappy rented ferraris (orcon dig) in the ISP world. </rant> Are all the ISPs shown on the linked map separate entities? Seems to me that a lot of the infrastucture costs could be self inflicted. |
PaulD (232) | ||
| 400710 | 2005-11-02 10:06:00 | So i wonder.. What percentage of the southern cross cable(s) is dark (unused, unlit) fibre? With big moves to get everyone using lots of bandwidth, surely there comes a point where we are going to need more links to other countrys? Or are we still only using 10% of the exsisting fibre? |
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