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| Thread ID: 63193 | 2005-11-01 18:58:00 | The best way to get cheaper broadband | Digby (677) | PC World Chat |
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| 401054 | 2005-11-02 03:44:00 | From press statements Telecom's next generation network, due in next 5-7 years, will be digital from the house with existing equipment like phones needing convertors. By then data won't be using analogue modems. Could this be the ADSL2 network? |
Mr Wetzyl (362) | ||
| 401055 | 2005-11-02 04:10:00 | Hope it won't. With any luck it'll be a fibre network (What sth. korea, hong kong etc get) | Edward (31) | ||
| 401056 | 2005-11-02 05:18:00 | Hi Guys Nice to see lots of replies, but not many on the topic. I should not have confused the thread by posting 2 subjects in one thread. I have posted in PC World years ago, but lost my password. My main point that NZ is in the lower end of broadband take up and, yes I know many people do not need it (just for checking email etc). But I am concerned from my own point of view (extra charges for data if I exceed a small cap) and for NZ's point of view as a proud kiwi I thought we were supposed to be at the leading edge of new technology ! Telecom hold us back by their overcharging. They do it with mobile phones as well ! It costs a fortune to call one from a landline. This all holds back business in NZ. You will notice if you read the NZ Herald of Tuesday 1st Nov, that just about every letter respondent said they did not want to get broadband because they thought it was a rip off. Not because they can't afford it, but because they are making a point. And for those of you who have already got broadband I am glad you are all so pleased with it and are happy to pay Telecoms inflated proces as noted by the OECD. (perhaps you are all millionaires ? or politicians who get it paid for by us !) And no my idea of SOE Telecom is vastly different to what we had berfore Rogernomics. As I said it would not sell phone services to the public just to wholesale companies. It would just purchase and install the best hardware available and charge whatever was required to do this and make a minimum profit. Regards Digby |
Digby (677) | ||
| 401057 | 2005-11-02 05:34:00 | Suspicion is far more to be wrong than right; more often unjust than just. It is no friend to virtue, and always an enemy to happiness. | Cicero (40) | ||
| 401058 | 2005-11-02 06:02:00 | You will notice if you read the NZ Herald of Tuesday 1st Nov, that just about every letter respondent said they did not want to get broadband because they thought it was a rip off. Not because they can't afford it, but because they are making a point. And here is that article you refer to: www.savefile.com Well worth the read - alot of Kiwis overseas having their say too! And a couple more letters from today's Herald too: www.savefile.com |
manicminer (4219) | ||
| 401059 | 2005-11-02 06:03:00 | You must live really close to your neighbours, or you have some really powerfull wireless gear to be able to serve up a wireless net connection to 6 neighbours . Can I have some estimates on how much that would cost to set up? A lot of people wouldn't mind having really slow internet, as long as it was cheap & they can be online all the time without it taking up their phone line . It might be a bit more difficult to find 6 of these people that live close enough together to do something like that . Sharing a 256k unlimited plan amoung 4 people would probably work - just over $10 each & they all get allocated slightly better than dialup bandwidth that doesn't require a phone line . Covers 1km easy, with Linksys WAP54g access points one as "access point" the others as "clients" . I did do a firmware upgrade, which puts the power way higher than default . Areials are cantennas and 1 omni directional box section all built myself . Cost for 1 client aprox: Cantenna = $10 - $20 Wire and plugs = $40+ Linksys WAP54G = $150 Cost for the host aprox: Omni directiona = $100 Wire and plugs = $40+ Linksys WAP54G = $150 Every one gets the same high speed 2Mb and can share files between each other . |
Rob99 (151) | ||
| 401060 | 2005-11-02 22:52:00 | This way Tele$om they will not meet their target of 250,00 bb users by the end of the year and the Government / Commerce Commision will be able to come down hard on them. Thats just like those dumb messages telling us all not to buy petrol so the price would go down. Too late, I already have broadband. Yes its more expensive and lower caps than overseas but tough luck. pctek has a very good point there. Any way I don’t think Telecom will hit that target any way; it might be close but not close enough (if they do I will be surprised!) ;) From www.nzherald.co.nz Stretch for Telecom to meet its targets 03.11.05 By Peter Nowak Telecom has been beefing up its wholesale broadband connection numbers for the past year by converting existing retail customers. Most of the 14,300 customers signed up under its JetStream Partnering Programme have switched over to other internet service providers and have thus gone from being considered retail customers to wholesale customers. The distinction is important because Telecom risks regulation if it does not meet its self-imposed targets of 250,000 broadband customers by the end of the year, a third of which must be through wholesale. The company reported as part of its year-end results in August that it had reached 206,000 broadband connections, but only about 15 per cent of those were through wholesale. Those numbers are set to be updated tomorrow, when the company reports its quarterly results. Under the partnering programme, customers purchased their internet access from Telecom and their other services, including email and website hosting, from other ISPs. The programme had been slated for discontinuation since November 2004 and the deadline for customers to convert had been August 2005. That had since been pushed back to October 31 and now - with about 4000 customers still left on the programme - likely until the end of the year, Telecom said. Chris Dyhrberg, head of marketing for the wholesale group, said that in the present context of wholesale arrangements the JetStream programme was "fairly out of date". He added that the conversion of customers was a consequence of the programme’s cancellation, but not its original impetus. "We are conscious of meeting our self-imposed targets and getting these customers on to proper wholesale plans by the end of the year certainly helps with that," he said. Some of the JetStream programme customers have switched on to Telecom’s Wholesale Broadband Service, unveiled in September. WBS closely approximates the old JetStream programme in that customers purchase their access from Telecom and their services from other ISPs. Telecom considers WBS a wholesale product, but the Commerce Commission yesterday said it was looking into whether this service was a "bona fide wholesale arrangement". The commission maintains that a proper wholesale product is a component that can be added to by the wholesaler, whereas a resold offering - which would be considered retail - is essentially the same. Telecom would not say how many WBS customers it had. As for the actual services customers are switching to, some ISPs are saying they are not as good as what was offered under the old JetStream Partnering Programme. The maximum download speed Telecom offers its wholesalers is 2 megabits per second, while the top upload speed is set at 128 kilobits per second. These speeds were significantly slower than some previous offerings, said one ISP who asked not to be named. Some customers had been enjoying speeds up to 4Mbps down and 800Kbps up. But Dyhrberg said: "Everyone has the option of staying on their current plan." |
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