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| Thread ID: 142936 | 2016-10-12 12:11:00 | Win 7 Pro couldn't restart after Patch Tuesday update | Robin S_ (86) | Press F1 |
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| 1427338 | 2016-10-12 12:11:00 | On my wife's 2yo Asus laptop running Win 7 Pro I have Updates set to download then notify - I check the offerings before installing. Tonight I rejected one for Office 2007 because it isn't installed and installed the remainder. A restart was requested after installation but failed several attempts. The repair option was offered but also failed. I started in safe mode and after some time it reported that it was retracting (or something) the new configuration of Windows and attempted another start. This also failed and again reported retracting the new configuration. It then restarted and after a few hiccups gunned up in normal mode. Has anyone else has this problem? If so try starting in Safe Mode. |
Robin S_ (86) | ||
| 1427339 | 2016-10-13 08:07:00 | This is why I haven't done any system updates to my Windows 7 Pro since 2011. All you need is Service Pack 1, and I only got that because it was needed to register this computer for Windows 10 which I installed, made a backup then reinstalled W7. I always keep system backups, very easily done using "AOMEI Backupper standard" which is a free download. It only takes about 12 minutes to make an Image of the 'C' partition, and even less time to restore it. You didn't say, but have you looked for a restore point in the "Control Panel" under "Backup & Restore"? It would probably pay you to reinstall W7 and get rid of all the rubbish, if you have any Data in 'C' remove it first. In future make regular system backups. I keep all by data on other partitions, you can divert My Documents, Pictures etc to another folder on another partition. You can also sync your files to a "cloud" such as DropBox. One drive, or Google drive. These files & folders are then updated automatically. You can also access your files on another computer, just need your user name and password. Have fun :) | mzee (3324) | ||
| 1427340 | 2016-10-13 09:01:00 | Thanks mzee - interesting info and food for thought. I will look into your suggestions. I have always set up our computers with 3 partitions - 1 for OS, 1 for programmes and 1 for data. I have automatic updates set to download only and alert me. I couldn't look for a restore point initially because the computer wouldn't start. Once I got it half-started in Safe Mode it needed to sort things out (the retraction, or whatever it called it, of the newly-installed updates) before it could progress itself. This eventually morphed into a start in normal mode. I did several shutdowns and restarts to check the efficacy of the fix and Windows initially wanted to install updates but I chose a plain shutdown the first time instead and thereafter it ceased prompting for update installs. I shut it down for the night and did a start and shutdown this morning as a check. It again prompted for installing updates before shutting down. I guessed that MS might have come up with a new patch to deal with the problem but didn't have time to go into the update history so I cancelled the shutdown and asked my wife not to shut down her laptop today. However this evening she forgot about that and clicked on 'install updates and shut down', so I thought we may be back to square 1. I did a startup and it was normal so hopefully the problem has been dealt to. I have never heard of AOMEI Backupper and will look into that. Thanks again for your suggestions. |
Robin S_ (86) | ||
| 1427341 | 2016-10-13 10:31:00 | Windows will often ignore your wishes if you set the Updates via the Control Panel. You need to turn it off in Group Policy. Start| Search "policy" | select "edit group policy" | Administrative Templates | Windows Components | Windows Update | Select "Configure Automatic Updates" Set to "disabled" (do not include quotes). I have attached a snip of how the Windows Update page looks like in the Control Panel. You can still download updates manually, and it will not stop AV and Malware programs from updating. Problem with the updates is that they often just have a reference number, which means that you often have no idea what they are. Just keep the antivirus up to date, I use Avira because Microsoft Security can slow the computer. Avira is very alert, and is free. You can also use Malwarebytes which is excellent. Hope this helps :)7557 |
mzee (3324) | ||
| 1427342 | 2016-10-14 09:51:00 | Thanks again mzee - more good stuff. I have long been annoyed that MS Update ignores the settings I had made via Control Panel. I will certainly get onto looking up the group policy approach. I have been considering switching to Avira A/V as I have been using Avast! and it slows computer startup time markedly. Something else to do. I also run MWB periodically. |
Robin S_ (86) | ||
| 1427343 | 2016-10-17 09:25:00 | Mzee - used Policy to get the settings I want which are to auto download updates then notify me so I can review them. Under Configure Automatic Updating I selected Enable > option3 (Auto download and notify for installation). I then enabled "Do not display 'Install Updates and Shut Down' option in the 'Shut Down Windows' dialogue box". The Install Updates and Shut down option has now gone and I am waiting for some new updates to appear to test if the system works. Very pleased. | Robin S_ (86) | ||
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