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Thread ID: 63460 2005-11-10 12:21:00 Telecom Petition hamstar (4) PC World Chat
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403272 2005-11-10 21:48:00 It's almost enough to make you want to move to Oz. Shame its filled with bleedin' Aussies though.
They always talk about the brain drain, but I wonder if they have considered faster internet being a major pull factor (not to mention it's nice and sunny over there). :p

Personally I don't think Telecom provides the best services in the world and I know they were formed as an SOE but I think they have the right to decide what they should and shouldn't offer. While I support you enthusiasm to try and make a difference Hamstar, I really don't know if petitions are going to have any effect. :2cents:
maccrazy (6741)
403273 2005-11-10 22:00:00 Anyways if you don't support this petition that means you can't complain about:
Mobile phone costs
Upload speeds
Data caps
Price versus Quality in broadband
When your neighbour can get ADSL but you can't
When you can't get ADSL cos you live too far out
- seriously, how much can it cost to throw a couple of DSLAMs etc into an exchange?
How your online gaming is crap because of interleaving (or artificial latency)
VoIP is crap for the same reason
etc
etc

Yeah... don't tell me to give up. I'm doing something about this problem. And hopefully I'll get some help from people that are pissed off with NZ's telecommunicatiosn quality as well.

anyone wanna make some more.. personal attacks? c'mon you know you want to... Do I need a shave? Is my hair too short? Acne?
hamstar (4)
403274 2005-11-10 22:02:00 oh yeah... thanks to those who offer suppport :D:D:D hamstar (4)
403275 2005-11-10 22:12:00 Don't get deterred hamstar. I'm sure there are heaps of people out there who will support you. Even if you petition isn't successful it will at least get people thinking. :) maccrazy (6741)
403276 2005-11-10 22:56:00 what new infrastructure??? adsl2?not in our lifetime.

Telecom has been publicising its proposed IP network for ages
www.telecom-media.co.nz

ADSL2 isn't a big help unless you are really close to the DSLAM. Supposedly when Telecom replace most of their old exchanges, the network will be carried on Fibre much further out.
PaulD (232)
403277 2005-11-11 07:02:00 what new infrastructure??? adsl2?not in our lifetime.[/url]

Fibre to the Curb. Basically they're replacing a bunch of backhaul copper infrastructure that is in some places upwards of 100 years old (not joking) and decentralising the exchanges even further which will increase their DSL coverage (giving room for technological advance ie dsl2), and at the same time they can largely corner VoIP and IP-TV which are markets they want to get into quickly before anyone else can monopolise them.

The big question is what will they do with the old infrastructure? If they sell that off they can make a buck getting rid of what they see as a dying asset, but for a company with the right cash, dedication and competency (read: Not Telstra) it could bring some choice. Dreams are free though.

By the time FTTC is really rolling though, we'll probably have a bunch of competent wireless providers (read: Not Woosh) offering packages via the likes of wimax, and a bunch of 3.5GHz spectrum is up for sale soon, so Telecom and Telstra want in there to squat and prevent wireless competition outside the ISM bands.

Looking ahead, the next year or two is going to be very interesting.
whetu (237)
403278 2005-11-11 07:29:00 I say Telecom builds a big apartment block in crampt conditions in downtown Auckland (right next to the motor way), and then run a fibre right to the building. They can then fill it up with bandwidth whores who want bandwidth 'just like asia', and get the living conditions too. $30 a month for 50gb, sure why not. Man I rule, I should be Telecoms advisor. DangerousDave (697)
403279 2005-11-11 10:01:00 I say Telecom builds a big apartment block in crampt conditions in downtown Auckland (right next to the motor way), and then run a fibre right to the building. They can then fill it up with bandwidth whores who want bandwidth 'just like asia', and get the living conditions too. $30 a month for 50gb, sure why not. Man I rule, I should be Telecoms advisor.

you dont get it do you. if telecom lowered there prices then it would be cost effective, at the moment, when i was on the $60 per month 256kb, 3gb cap i was capped monthly for just average surfing, thats why i saved myself $30 than the telecom list price of $80 for 2mbit with a 20gb cap, i am paying $49.95 for the same thing on Ihug than $79.95 would buy you on telecom. how does that make sense?????
Tux (606)
403280 2005-11-11 11:48:00 I am yet to see a single person on this forum display any accurate and rationale processing of Telecom. It's awesome. ninja (1671)
403281 2005-11-12 03:47:00 oh yeah... thanks to those who offer suppport :D:D:D

I'm with Hamstar on this.

How did women manage to get the vote after all those years of suppression?

It certainly didn't happen through apathy.

Granted, one petition won't change the world of broadband in NZ, but every bit helps.

Telecom are abusing their monopoly and this has to stop sometime, preferably sooner rather than later.
barmypom (6048)
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