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| Thread ID: 64194 | 2005-12-06 22:54:00 | Phones and internet connection in rural areas | turtle63 (9378) | PC World Chat |
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| 410762 | 2005-12-08 03:52:00 | Reading Bordernet's FAQ: 6. I have heard satellite has a lag (latency), is this same with vSat? For standard usage like browsing and downloading there is only a slight lag compared to other broadband products thanks to some technical prioritisation performed at the earth station HUB. For applications that require high speed ping times like VPN, there is a lag typically of around 1–2 seconds due to the distance needed to travel, some 150,000 kilometres. ... 17. Does VoIP work over 2-way satellite? At this time we are currently trialing this and hope to have this available shortly.I'm not quiet sure how they intend to fix a 1-2 sec latency and run VoIP. I thought speed of light gave you 500ms each way to orbit and back. I would be asking to see a demo of bordernet's VoIP before putting it in as my primary voice system. -Qyiet |
qyiet (6730) | ||
| 410763 | 2005-12-08 04:08:00 | It depends on how high the satellite is. 300 km = 1 ms one way. | Graham L (2) | ||
| 410764 | 2005-12-08 07:19:00 | Have a look on the road outside, if there is either a fatish cable strung under power lines, or seperatly from powerlines, or telecoms little grey boxes on side of road then you will be able to work it out how far you have to run cable before you hit thier network. In Soddenvile, on the Wild West Coast, we did pretty much that to get the phone connected for my sons mother. We even ran the 2 pair cable up the side of the pole in old garden hose... As far as i know its still like that today. I'm not sure if or how the rules have changed, but then, as we did the work ourselves, and put a cable right there for telecom contractors to connect, they would only charge a minamal connection fee. Worth checking out |
personthingy (1670) | ||
| 410765 | 2005-12-08 09:13:00 | Telecom may now want a "capital contribution" towards the infrastructure behind the connection for rural connections, it can be up to $2,500 (excluding the cost of the line on your property). Its another move to "user pays", and brings it into line with the electricity industry that has done that for many years. The cost may therefore have little to do with the cabling as the main component. I am not saying I agree or otherwise, it depends if you consider that urban users should support rural users by way of subsidy in addition to the existing uniformity of "line rental" that already subsidises the overheads to an extent, or not. In rural subdivisions, sometimes these costs are pre-paid by the subdivider, sometimes not. |
godfather (25) | ||
| 410766 | 2005-12-08 09:48:00 | Godfather makes a good point and it is worth checking . Personally I would just suck my tummy in and get the cable-laying bulldozer on the job . You are far better off with a landline than relying on the vagaries of signals through the air . Alternatively you could hire a trenching machine and work from daylight to dark yourselves digging your own trench . Then lay the cable and conduit and fill back in . Probably a lot cheaper than the bulldozer but a lot more work . As for your Harrier - this type of phone has poor connectivity . I tried a Palm Treo thing and it didn't work in Central Otago while my old Kyocera phone had no problems . I watched a mate walking up a hill shaking his Harrier looking for a signal while the Kyocera connected from inside a bowl of land . The local Telecom people told me Palms, Harriers, Blackberries etc are made for cities where the ether is saturated with signals . |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 410767 | 2005-12-08 11:06:00 | Let's see. Assuming it's 1km: 1km of phone wire at DSE: $880 - but assuming a bulk discount, you could probably get it for $500. Time to wire it up: 12 hours or so. So basically if you want to turn time into money (I'll do it for $12/hr :p) that's about $1100 plus however much Telecom charges for the connecting. But if it's more than about $200 then I have a cunning plan: Find someone you know where you ran the wire to - run it to their house, pay them $50 to ask Telecom for a 'second line', and hook it into the 'second line'. Reimburse them the $40/month and you're sorted - until someone finds out. |
george12 (7) | ||
| 410768 | 2005-12-08 18:34:00 | Let's see. Assuming it's 1km: 1km of phone wire at DSE: $880 - but assuming a bulk discount, you could probably get it for $500. Time to wire it up: 12 hours or so. So basically if you want to turn time into money (I'll do it for $12/hr :p) that's about $1100 plus however much Telecom charges for the connecting. But if it's more than about $200 then I have a cunning plan: Find someone you know where you ran the wire to - run it to their house, pay them $50 to ask Telecom for a 'second line', and hook it into the 'second line'. Reimburse them the $40/month and you're sorted - until someone finds out.Is it illegal to onsell a telephone connection? Was i once breaking the law or telecoms rules by charging my flatmates for the phones, or extending the phone lines to the otherhouse we all shared? Well i know of someone who lives in what i shall describe as a hut in the middle of a largepiece of West Coast land. Her phone is a second line piped down from the main house to her hut. Totaly legal, although all this land is all on the same title, but otherwise exactly what george12 was suggesting. |
personthingy (1670) | ||
| 410769 | 2005-12-09 00:18:00 | You can install your own telephone system as long as it's on a single property . As soon as your wires cross the boundary you are breaking the monopoly . That's how it used to be, anyway . The stopper, legally, which is certain to be still true: connecting to the telecom network without their permission . I wonder how it would be to get a friendly neighbour to install a long-distance cordless phone on the second line . You could arrange to charge the handset without returning it to the base set . |
Graham L (2) | ||
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