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681552 2008-06-24 01:42:00 Just made the RMA request and a plea of innocence along with it.

I am all for Agent_24's theory now. However even I have made numerous Windows-based updates with no issues before, mainly with Compaq PCs and Toshiba laptops. It seems odd that those proprietary motherboards handle them fine while supposedly high performance boards often die because of it.
technicianxp (6463)
681553 2008-06-24 01:52:00 I think Compaq / HP bios updates were made to be flashed in Windows or DOS .

I've downloaded / and flashed them, no prob at all as well .

Dont know, it could be, because the update and everything is in the exe file you download .

Whereas ASUS and (maybe Abit mobos), theyre separate files . The update is in the zipped file and you have to use a separate program to flash it (either in DOS or Windows) . Which probably has a higher probability of screwing up .

If you do it in Windows, and something drastic happens .

Only diff is, you'll have a better chance of reflashing an ASUS BIOS (if it screws up), than you would if you had an Abit / other mobo/BIOS .
Speedy Gonzales (78)
681554 2008-06-24 02:14:00 Yeah the Compaq/HP updates are really good and simple. Most importantly reliable.

Abit has a seperate utility for flashing called FlashMenu which I got the latest version of. It can either do a LiveUpdate from the Internet or update from a file, and I chose to update from file as I presumed it'd be safer due to the Internet connection risk being eliminated.

By the way just a question, why would an Asus board be easier to recover?
technicianxp (6463)
681555 2008-06-24 02:30:00 By the way just a question, why would an Asus board be easier to recover?

More recent ASUS mobos have a feature called Crashfree BIOS.

If the BIOS becomes corrupt, (or if something happens if you flash the BIOS in Windows), you can put the cd the mobo came with (in the cd), and reboot, it'll reflash it. With the original BIOS. The BIOS update is in the root folder / directory of the mobo CD.

Then you can reflash it to the latest version

Or if you've downloaded the updated BIOS, you can put it on a floppy (hopefully you have 1), rename the BIOS (first), as stated in the manual, put the floppy in, turn the computer on, press ALT-F2, it'll reflash the BIOS

Later versions of Crashfree BIOS (version 3) will also let you do this on a USB flash drive (I dont think Version 2 does, you can only do it from a floppy).
Speedy Gonzales (78)
681556 2008-06-24 03:01:00 Recoverable BIOS isn't new. Award Bioses have a boot block that allowed recovery from a floppy.

From a page for ABITs pages.sbcglobal.net

"The BootBlock is the last block of the BIOS code, which will attempt to boot if the main BIOS code has been corrupted, enabling you to boot from a floppy to reflash."
PaulD (232)
681557 2008-06-24 03:03:00 Crashfree is just a better version of the bootblock recovery method. Works pretty well too. Don't think I'd always want to use the original BIOS file on the CD though - could get even worse if you were using hardware (eg CPU) that wasn't supported by the CD version... I'd rather use the latest one for recovery from the start.

Best way is to get a motherboard with a socketed chip. then you know you're fine even if the chip fails
Agent_24 (57)
681558 2008-06-24 03:12:00 You could make up another mobo cd and put the latest BIOS on it.

Thats what I did for the other PC here. In case something happens
Speedy Gonzales (78)
681559 2008-06-24 03:25:00 Yeah that's pretty much what I meant Agent_24 (57)
681560 2008-06-24 10:44:00 If I was flashing from windows I would use safe mode and disable the screen saver. mikebartnz (21)
681561 2008-06-24 11:45:00 Still doesn't change the fact that it's in windows Agent_24 (57)
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