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| Thread ID: 64436 | 2005-12-15 00:53:00 | court query | lance4k (4644) | PC World Chat |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 412761 | 2005-12-16 05:00:00 | Sometimes with the witness fee, (and other fees as well, like solicitor's fee, etc) if the person gets convicted, they get ordered to pay it, thru fines (like an infringement). I used to enter fines / witness fees etc, into the system, for the courts. The court/police would usually have a list of witnesses, and their addresses / phone numbers etc. So, they can distribute the fee, / keep track of it, / whats happening with it, once the person has been convicted, and ordered to pay it.So when ever Joe convict beats up his fellow inmates while extorting cash, remember it's to pay his witness fee debts!!!!! As if! :lol: :groan: |
personthingy (1670) | ||
| 412762 | 2005-12-16 05:05:00 | Whats ya point Person. I didnt say fines are the same as witness fees. BUT both go thru the court. |
Speedy Gonzales (78) | ||
| 412763 | 2005-12-16 05:38:00 | Whats ya point Person. I didnt say fines are the same as witness fees. BUT both go thru the court.I'm saying that no matter what you call the fee, if the convict is expected to pay it, then forget it..... funny thing about people in jail is they have somewhat limited incomes. Thats why i didn't bother going for reperation when the twits under police chase failed to take the corner too well in the snow and the chase was ended with the stolen subaru all squishy squashy under the deck of my truck. What would have been the point? Twit goes to can, an i get no money. |
personthingy (1670) | ||
| 412764 | 2005-12-16 05:50:00 | Well, thats true . Sometimes if a person goes to prison and the court knows about the fines / and reparation . If its a substantial amount, it can get wiped, and the person can get extra prison time for it (cumulative prison) . And depending on what the reparation is for ( it could be damage to property, or injury to a person), the court may take this into account . Usually if its reparation to a person thru injuring them, it stays there (in court records), till the person gets out of prison . And they can arrest the person for it after they get out (while on Parole) . The probation officer who's dealing with the person on Parole, can order that person to go to court and deal with the fines / reparation . Or they can appear in court while in prison, and get extra prison, and get the fines / reparation wiped . |
Speedy Gonzales (78) | ||
| 412765 | 2005-12-16 06:35:00 | how long does it take after the person is convicted usually to get the witness fee payment? It can take quite a while Lance, so if you are about to give evidence, don't expect a speedy reimbursement. You could be out of pocket for several months. If you are testifying on behalf of a victim, they are unlikely to be too motivated to pay, and if you are testifying for the defence, ask the defence lawyer to get a suitable sum from the defendant before you even appear. I have done quite a bit of court work as a defence expert and I was advised by the first barrister I dealt with as follows: "Always get your fees and expenses up front before you appear. Remember, you are dealing with criminals." Whenever I forgot that advice or allowed myself to be sweet-talked into starting work without cash up-front it cost me. I am currently chasing $2500 overdue for nearly two years. I was stiffed by both the lawyer and his client and we are just heading off to the Disputes Tribunal. I didn't realise that the advice I received referred to both the defendant and his counsel. :angry Cheers Billy 8-{) Present company excepted Winston. :xmouth: |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 412766 | 2005-12-17 00:14:00 | The "barrister" lawyer didn't warn you about the problems of dealing with lawyers, Billy? Or did he subconsciously equate "criminals" with "lawyers". | Graham L (2) | ||
| 412767 | 2005-12-17 02:08:00 | The "barrister" lawyer didn't warn you about the problems of dealing with lawyers, Billy? Or did he subconsciously equate "criminals" with "lawyers" . OOOOHHHH . . . . . . . . . . . . cutting :lol: Billy - you shouldn't be faced with that . Lawyers who instruct people for reports are liable for the cost . Normally they get the money in or Legal Aid approval first . I've had to pay valuers myself over the years having naively trusted a client . If you are certain that you were instructed by the lawyer - not his client - then you can complain to the District Law Society . Some lawyers can be unaware of their professional obligations - it is actually a complex subject of its own . |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 412768 | 2005-12-17 02:09:00 | The only bad debt I have ever had to chase was related to expert witness fees. The Crown Law Office pay up OK, as long as you have arranged the expected hourly or daily rate beforehand when acting as expert witness for the prosecution , but acting for the Defence (in other trials of course) is entirely a different matter. I had to resort to threatening the lawyer with debt collection before the fees were finally paid, over a year later. |
godfather (25) | ||
| 412769 | 2005-12-18 03:45:00 | I've never had any problems with lawyers or their clients paying, but most of my work is up-front and invoiced before proceedings in the form of reports and statements. The bit that gets me is, the con jobs lawyers do to get one to take on the work in the first place (i.e. slip it into the schedule). Small job, have a preliminary look and advise, sort of scenario turns into a full blown investigation and report that should have been filed last week. In other words we've been sitting around keeping out thumbs warm for months, now we/somebody/you actually need to know what we're talking about :illogical |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 412770 | 2005-12-18 08:14:00 | If you are certain that you were instructed by the lawyer - not his client - then you can complain to the District Law Society . Some lawyers can be unaware of their professional obligations - it is actually a complex subject of its own . I never spoke to or met the client, so no way was any form of contract agreed between us . I was instructed by the Barrister and sent detailed breakdown of costs + written terms and conditions to him at time of his initial enquiry . I still have the fax cover-sheet etc . It was made very clear that I didn't accept "pay if paid", "pay if we win" or "contingency" work . Lawyers are all told in writing that failure to comply with my terms and conditions will see them footing the bill if they elect not to procure my fees in advance and their client subsequently defaults . He responded to my requests for payment and my complaint to the LS with a few choice porkies . The Law Society found nothing to concern them, and told me I should have had my terms and conditions sorted and in writing before doing the job . Helloooooooooo . . . . . . . . . . . . . . :groan: I then sent the decision back to the LS for review by the Lay Observer . The Lay Observer sent the decision back to LS with a strong recommendation that they review, and a new committee will consider the matter in February 06 . I have zero faith in the LS, who apparently can only recommend that he settle the account, not force him to pay, so I am preparing for the Disputes Tribunal . Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
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