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| Thread ID: 64694 | 2005-12-23 10:35:00 | Do you ever experience any guilty conscience whenever you illegally download musics? | Renmoo (66) | PC World Chat |
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| 415310 | 2005-12-29 07:39:00 | This is a great discussion. Thanks in particular to Personthingy for pointing out the realities of the business. I had assumed that downloading music was bad for the artist - but maybe it helps keep them visible. Certainly the internet allows musicians to market themselves directly if they want to. Also getting a song which you wouldn't buy anyway is no loss to the recording company but might mean a new fan. Frankly I am appalled at the cost of CDs. When they first arrived in the mid-1980s, CDs retailed for $29.95. Cassettes and LPs were about $15-20 by comparison and involved more complex technology (in todays terms). Today CDs are $34.95 unless on sale. This means they have sort of dropped in price because you could buy a lot of other stuff for $34.95 in 1985. But technologically CDs should be $6.95 each now. We can only assume that the current price is driven by the industry and thus pirateing is inevitable. Drop the price and it wouldn't be worthwhile. :2cents: |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 415311 | 2005-12-29 21:41:00 | The music industry put years of work into finding the price per CD that gets them the most profit. There was an experiment in some country - I forget where - they dropped the price of CDs & found that although the sold more CDs, they didn't make as much money overall. That was about 5 years ago I think, so it might be time for them to repeat the experiment. |
Greven (91) | ||
| 415312 | 2009-01-08 01:48:00 | I will go see a band live if I like the music - this is where bands make the most money anyway. If they dont tour here then bad luck I guess. | Fifthdawn (9467) | ||
| 415313 | 2009-01-08 02:27:00 | I must say that I wouldn't feel guilt,but if asked would I download pirates,I would have to say I couldn't possibly comment.!! And no amount of twirpage comment will change that. In fact we have all heard it said that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce the complete works of Shakespeare;now,thanks to the internet we know this is no true. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 415314 | 2009-01-08 04:53:00 | The Monkey test results are unfairly skewed, since the monkeys are all being kept away from the typewriters until they finish their five year spell of duty with the T.com - Xtra helpdesk. | R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 415315 | 2009-01-08 05:00:00 | I started downloading music from a small radio onto a reel to reel tape recorder in 1960 when I was overseas in the Air Force and in one form or another ever since. After 45 years do I feel any guilt? Like hell I do. Most of the stuff I would get is well dated by now but better quality and still makes good listening. I also recorded music (and other programmes) off the radio onto a reel to reel in the 60s. I still have some of those tapes. Before the net came along there were many people who would tape their mate's records. I have many such tapes - reel to reel and cassette. These days I burn them to a CD. Much more convenient. It's not as if piracy is anything new - it has been going on ever since there has been recorded music - but it is so much more widespread these days. The net makes it much easier and quicker to, of course, much more people. The music industry has been aware of the problem for the past forty years or so, but it has become so prolific lately. I can see why they might be annoyed. I have many CDs downloaded from the net. But do I feel guilty? HELL, NO! (Incidentally, why is it that a bought CD has 10-15 tracks when I can fit about 25-29 audio tracks?) :illogical |
Roscoe (6288) | ||
| 415316 | 2009-01-08 06:54:00 | Sorry, "music" rather than "musics" | Renmoo (66) | ||
| 415317 | 2009-01-08 07:03:00 | New Zealand is often a testing ground for music sales. If an overseas act does well over here, they will generally kick ass overseas. In saying that, the rule doesnt apply to our local acts, if they do well here, they dont really tend to get far overseas or they move overseas and do well but get claimed by their adopted country. Especially rock (and heavier) bands are pretty much ignored locally so they tend to go overseas. Kiwis are music snobs in reality and the ultimate testing ground for any band. |
rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
| 415318 | 2009-01-08 19:16:00 | CD's are advertising for bands - I have purchased all the Kings of Leon albums and DVD for a grand total of about $60 (thanks JB Hi-Fi) but have forked out something like $500 on concert tickets for the band since then. Maybe the band made a couple of dollars out of the CD sales but I'm sure they made a lot of money out of the concert tickets. So how did I first hear about KOL - I downloaded the first album a few years back after reading a review of it on line, and liked it enough to buy it. The new law coming into effect in a few weeks is a disgrace, record companies will get peoples internet access cut off just by accusing people of breaching copyright. I saw some record company prat on tv last night trying to justify this. Hopefully the law will get axed by National but at least I guess when they start enforcing it the records companies will finally feel a backlash. |
Twelvevolts (5457) | ||
| 415319 | 2009-01-08 19:45:00 | CD's are advertising for bands - I have purchased all the Kings of Leon albums and DVD for a grand total of about $60 (thanks JB Hi-Fi) but have forked out something like $500 on concert tickets for the band since then. I agree totally. The best acts are live, and that is were the best acts get the coin to pay for tomorrows breakfast. It's no surprise that the people moaning most are the record companies who make their money of the artists and record sales. If the artists can promote themselves through radio airplay and internet distribution of home recordings that are far from what they used to be than the record company is obsolete. No-one wants to be a multibillion dollar obsolenance. Should the record companies be bypassed artists will no longer have to agree to borrow the cost of huge recording contracts that get paid back with a small cut of the record sales. This is what the standard recording contract amounts to. Making a record has bankrupted many an artist. While the record company will attack "illegal downloads" it's worth noting that it's reducing legal downloads by scaring the bejesus out of Joe bloggs and the punters. Hopefully the law will get axed by National but at least I guess when they start enforcing it the records companies will finally feel a backlash.I dought it. National tends to support the companies. The political back tracking would be tiresome, however there is a good chance that this becomes yet another law that no one has time to enforce. |
personthingy (1670) | ||
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