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| Thread ID: 65249 | 2006-01-12 02:12:00 | Is it an offence to park outside your own house with an expired WOF? | Billy T (70) | PC World Chat |
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| 420326 | 2006-01-12 04:24:00 | Afraid you're indeed illegal, Billy. I found this out the hard way years ago in Auckland at a time when I was so penniless that I couldn't afford to pay the sum a garage wanted for the small repair needed to give me a WoF for my bomb (1948 Morris 10) When it got a ticket right outside my door, the irony was that the fine was exactly the same amount. And I DID have to find it then. I had to sell the car to do it. |
Laura (43) | ||
| 420327 | 2006-01-12 04:28:00 | Was that before you had to have a recent warrant to be able to sell the car?. :D | Graham L (2) | ||
| 420328 | 2006-01-12 04:37:00 | Yes. It was an "As is - where is" sale. And it really hurt. |
Laura (43) | ||
| 420329 | 2006-01-12 04:53:00 | And if you had held on to it, it would have changed from being an "old bomb" to being "worth a bomb" . | Graham L (2) | ||
| 420330 | 2006-01-12 05:22:00 | You guys have it easy there in NZ about registrations and such . Let me enlighten you to the laws here in California: All motor vehicles will have current registration sticker on rear license plate or a certificate of "Non-operation" (for a fee) at all times . All vehicles with current registration sticker will have current and legal insurance on such vehicle at all times, including "Uninsured/Underinsured motorist coverage, minimum state set values and by a licensed insurance brokered policy . All vehicles will be in Federal and State requirements for emission controls inspections and certifications . (Any vehicle offered for trade/sale/barter or transfer of ownership shall also have a current, less than 30 day old certificate of emissions inspection and compliance too . ) No unlicensed vehicles shall be viewable from the public thoroughfare or roadway at any time, unless such vehicle(s) are over twenty-five years of age (this allowance for classic car restorations) . Vehicles being repaired are not exempt of continued certifications and licenses at any time . No vehicle shall be towed or allowed to enter any public roadway or path without being duly licensed, insured and certified . Failure to re-register a vehicle places that vehicle in a complete vehicle brake/lamp/emissions (and some times weight) re-certification process . Temporary operational certificates to move a vehicle to a place of repair or demolition are issued on a one-time, one-way basis only, in a 24 hour time period for a fee . Failure to comply with any/all or combination of the above is automatically an impound situation, that is fined on a calander basis (day-to-day), plus the impound fee and towing fee, payable by the latest registered owner of record . This fee is collected by the State of California's Attorney General office under the laws concerning taxes not collected and in arrears . There is NO GRACE PERIOD for any registration/licensing/certifications, and any that are late are fined at the rate of a percentage of the original vehicle's selling price, usually between 2% and 20% of that value . There are also administrative costs (read: local police) fees that are added to the fines and fees . The regulations provide for collection of fees through levies on personal property (houses, other cars, business taxes, credit cards or bank deposits) to satisfy the fines/fees . They take it outta you tax refunds if they like to also . Vehicles found upon a public roadway may be impounded for those, plus these "rules": No broken windshield; broken glass is a moving equipment violation Missing/broken lamps, lenses and bulbs Illegal (non-DOT reg) lamps, horns, accessories Ovedsized tires exceeding the body and flaps Headlamps too high from the ground or too low Tinted windows at the driver's peripheral line of sight Over-loud or blatantly modified exhaust system Obviously missing emissions control devices Missing safety devices (wipers, worn, broken, bent, defective, modified) Missing/modified seat belts and appropiate harnesses, including baby seats that are to be certified and installed correctly Missing mirrors or horns . Missing or non-certified chains and hitches on towed vehicles or trailers . Bald or worn tires, (must have 3/32'nds of an inch tread in all areas of tire) Missing lug nuts or rim/tire fasteners . Current registration papers, legally licensed driver at controls, current insurance certificates and any other certifications in the vehicle at all times . No open alcoholic containers within driver's arm reach or in glove compartment . No firearms that are useable without getting out of vehicle to access ammunition or pertenant parts of firearm to make it operable . Failure to have appropiate safety belts on and being worn at all times engine is running or keys are in ignition . Anything else the local police are checking that week . :D You cannot win here . They have you by the shortest of your personal fur . |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 420331 | 2006-01-12 05:37:00 | C'mon Billy... stop putting us through such agony at reading your posts. I'd like to contribute to the help, but man, you coulda made the question a heck of a lot more concise. I'll read it later when I have a lot more time to spare. [edit] I could possibly have offered a valid opinion given that I have some experience of the inner workings of the LTSA and associated authorities. |
Greg (193) | ||
| 420332 | 2006-01-12 05:41:00 | Well, If you do go to court .. have a look outside the court house and check the police-cars for warrants and regos :D Take a digi-cam with you so you can show the judge :p .. chances are one will be on the road with an overdue warrant or rego |
Myth (110) | ||
| 420333 | 2006-01-12 05:41:00 | You guys have it easy there in NZ about registrations and such . Let me enlighten you to the laws here in California: All motor vehicles will have current registration sticker on rear license plate or a certificate of "Non-operation" (for a fee) at all times . All vehicles with current registration sticker will have current and legal insurance on such vehicle at all times, including "Uninsured/Underinsured motorist coverage, minimum state set values and by a licensed insurance brokered policy . All vehicles will be in Federal and State requirements for emission controls inspections and certifications . (Any vehicle offered for trade/sale/barter or transfer of ownership shall also have a current, less than 30 day old certificate of emissions inspection and compliance too . ) No unlicensed vehicles shall be viewable from the public thoroughfare or roadway at any time, unless such vehicle(s) are over twenty-five years of age (this allowance for classic car restorations) . Vehicles being repaired are not exempt of continued certifications and licenses at any time . No vehicle shall be towed or allowed to enter any public roadway or path without being duly licensed, insured and certified . Failure to re-register a vehicle places that vehicle in a complete vehicle brake/lamp/emissions (and some times weight) re-certification process . Temporary operational certificates to move a vehicle to a place of repair or demolition are issued on a one-time, one-way basis only, in a 24 hour time period for a fee . Failure to comply with any/all or combination of the above is automatically an impound situation, that is fined on a calander basis (day-to-day), plus the impound fee and towing fee, payable by the latest registered owner of record . This fee is collected by the State of California's Attorney General office under the laws concerning taxes not collected and in arrears . There is NO GRACE PERIOD for any registration/licensing/certifications, and any that are late are fined at the rate of a percentage of the original vehicle's selling price, usually between 2% and 20% of that value . There are also administrative costs (read: local police) fees that are added to the fines and fees . The regulations provide for collection of fees through levies on personal property (houses, other cars, business taxes, credit cards or bank deposits) to satisfy the fines/fees . They take it outta you tax refunds if they like to also . Vehicles found upon a public roadway may be impounded for those, plus these "rules": No broken windshield; broken glass is a moving equipment violation Missing/broken lamps, lenses and bulbs Illegal (non-DOT reg) lamps, horns, accessories Ovedsized tires exceeding the body and flaps Headlamps too high from the ground or too low Tinted windows at the driver's peripheral line of sight Over-loud or blatantly modified exhaust system Obviously missing emissions control devices Missing safety devices (wipers, worn, broken, bent, defective, modified) Missing/modified seat belts and appropiate harnesses, including baby seats that are to be certified and installed correctly Missing mirrors or horns . Missing or non-certified chains and hitches on towed vehicles or trailers . Bald or worn tires, (must have 3/32'nds of an inch tread in all areas of tire) Missing lug nuts or rim/tire fasteners . Current registration papers, legally licensed driver at controls, current insurance certificates and any other certifications in the vehicle at all times . No open alcoholic containers within driver's arm reach or in glove compartment . No firearms that are useable without getting out of vehicle to access ammunition or pertenant parts of firearm to make it operable . Failure to have appropiate safety belts on and being worn at all times engine is running or keys are in ignition . Anything else the local police are checking that week . :D You cannot win here . They have you by the shortest of your personal fur . Yet another damn good reason not to live in the Fantasmical United States of The Worst Toilet Hole in History . Go New Zealand! |
Greg (193) | ||
| 420334 | 2006-01-12 05:48:00 | Easy Greg . . . this is just California's rules . . . we have state-by-state regulations that are for the most part typicall in alignmnet with federal regs . . . but California goes 'way overboard with theirs . States like Texas, and Arizona and others that don't live off the Washington nipple so much, have lessened their restraints on their individual citizens . While federal matching funds are nice for road repairs and infrastructure, some states are self-sufficient and tell the feds to pound sand and leave them alone . California is very restrictive, but most of that is from the lack of $$ at the state level, and they raise revenues by odious taxes and levying fines . This is the largest welfare state in the union, and it is technically broke . . so fines and fees and laws are getting larger and larger . |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 420335 | 2006-01-12 05:59:00 | Tazz: What I often notiice as I ride past the court are the police cars parked on expired meters. Greg: you complain about Billy's verbosity, but you a very long posting which is only a small distance up the thread. :( |
Graham L (2) | ||
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