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1428245	2016-11-18 04:54:00	My point is there is no knowing who clicked what, and despite Microsoft calling it the "Legal Stuff", I don't think there is anything legal about it, as they are trying to avoid the "Privacy Act" but are "Caught" by it. I had hoped that someone with a "Legal Background" might like to comment. :) Simple question - Have you actually read the complete thing As to what was agreed to, and know what it contains. ? Its really quite simple - if you don't agree then uninstall Windows - end of story. Tell ya what give a tech a few minutes with your computers and they will get rid of your problem completely. :D	wainuitech (129)
1428246	2016-11-18 05:12:00	Link Please. Here (www.bbc.com) As requested	gary67 (56)
1428247	2016-11-18 06:27:00	Tell ya what give a tech a few minutes with your computers and they will get rid of your problem completely. :D Don't need a Tech, I'm on the case. :D	B.M. (505)
1428248	2016-11-18 06:46:00	Here (www.bbc.com) As requested Thanks Gary, what an incredible article. So Microsoft has decided that if you can’t beat them join them. 7678 I’m picking the next move is to buy Linux out and close them down. A well known Business Move. ;) Interesting times. :D	B.M. (505)
1428249	2016-11-18 07:09:00	Don't need a Tech, I'm on the case. :D Well glad I'm not paying you by the hour to get around to doing it.. if you were serious about it you should be able to do them all by this Monday 21st, but that will never happen. In the time its taken to "get around to it" I and most other tech 's could have changed your computers several times, lets see 4-5 computers (as a moderate number) per day-- EASY. One thing, I cant quite figure out the comment you made relating to Agreeing to the terms and conditions on your laptop. :confused: My point is there is no knowing who clicked what -- So basically either you forgot, don't want to admit you actually did agree OR very slap happy as to who has access to your computers. Most adult people who buy new computers know who set it up originally.	wainuitech (129)
1428250	2016-11-18 17:22:00	One thing, I cant quite figure out the comment you made relating to Agreeing to the terms and conditions on your laptop. :confused: -- So basically either you forgot, don't want to admit you actually did agree OR very slap happy as to who has access to your computers. Most adult people who buy new computers know who set it up originally. Well the matter is very simple. A Contract must be between two or more identifiable parties for it to be enforceable. That is why they are signed and sometimes witnessed as well. I don’t believe a tick in a box by an unidentified person meets these requirements and all of Microsoft’s “Legal Stuff” you refer to isn’t worth a “Tin of the proverbial”. But tell me, how many times has Microsoft tried to enforce this contract you keep on about, in NZ?	B.M. (505)
1428251	2016-11-18 21:11:00	Well the matter is very simple. A Contract must be between two or more identifiable parties for it to be enforceable. That is why they are signed and sometimes witnessed as well. I don’t believe a tick in a box by an unidentified person meets these requirements and all of Microsoft’s “Legal Stuff” you refer to isn’t worth a “Tin of the proverbial”. But tell me, how many times has Microsoft tried to enforce this contract you keep on about, in NZ? By Clicking the Agree button you agree to all the terms and conditions as set out by whom ever it is. Its completely legal... Have a read of the following Legal Page HERE (www.nolo.com) Parts of interest: Electronic contracts and electronic signatures are just as legal and enforceable as traditional paper contracts signed in ink. Federal legislation enacted in 2000, known as the Electronic Signatures in Global and International Commerce act (ESGICA), removed the uncertainty that previously plagued e-contracts. An e-contract can also be in the form of a "Click to Agree" contract, commonly used with downloaded software: The user clicks an "I Agree" button on a page containing the terms of the software license before the transaction can be completed. Most computer software companies will have had lawyers a LOT more powerful than your thinking that know the law inside out go over the terms etc. It doesn't matter what you're reasoning are, SOMEONE who setup YOUR computer, agreed. And its completely legal. Personally I think you're just disagreeing because you know very well who clicked the Agree, I don't believe you're that stupid to not know. You simply wont admit you're wrong. Just because you never bothered to read it doesn't mean anything. Its still enforceable in court, I KNOW because one twit tried it on me using that excuse years ago, wouldn't pay the bill as agreed, I took him to court, his excuse was he didn't read it. He was laughed out of court with the comment- "you signed it, you agreed, its your fault you never read it", and I won all the amount owe including interest, baycourp fees etc, ended up costing him quite a bit more (roughly 2K) than if he had simply paid the original invoice. Two Questions: If you don't agree why don't you right NOW wipe that drive clean of Windows ? or If you don't agree and want to keep Windows, why not take them to court ? We all know you wont you don't have the balls to do it, because you know you wouldn't win. Sorry but all talk and no actions is what you spout.	wainuitech (129)
1428252	2016-11-18 23:18:00	By Clicking the Agree button you agree to all the terms and conditions as set out by whom ever it is. Its completely legal... Have a read of the following Legal Page HERE (www.nolo.com) Now listen up Wainui, regardless of your indoctrination, I never Ticked or Signed anything, so I’m not bound by anything. Now I don’t care how smart Microsoft’s Lawyers are, but I’m sure not even they would be interested in making fools of themselves trying to enforce a non-existent contract. Hence, you’ve never heard of them bothering to pursue anyone. :D As for the ESGICA I suggest you read it HERE (en.wikipedia.org rce_Act) from top to bottom. Apart from the fact it is a American Federal Law I had to chuckle at this bit: “Section 101 of the ESIGN Act, sub-section (b), preserves the rights of individuals to NOT USE electronic signatures. Here the law provides that individuals reserve the right to use a paper signature”. So let’s all insist on a Paper Signature and see how Microsoft enjoy that. :D	B.M. (505)
1428253	2016-11-19 00:56:00	Now listen up Wainui, regardless of your indoctrination, I never Ticked or Signed anything, so I’m not bound by anything. Now I don’t care how smart Microsoft’s Lawyers are, but I’m sure not even they would be interested in making fools of themselves trying to enforce a non-existent contract. Hence, you’ve never heard of them bothering to pursue anyone. :D Someone clicked the Agree otherwise it wouldn't proceed, and by your own admission your so stupid that you don't even know who it was. A Electronic agreement is LAW, and can be held up in court. As for a paper -- again your so stupid that you don't know you can print it off if you even bothered to look. I'd be surprised if you even know how to read it right now on your computer. As for MS not following up, Man you are really dumb , if you had the brains to use google you would find plenty of cases, but like everything you ask you need to be spoon fed. A Really simple google search would bring up www.reddit.com And just for your info, I used to work for a guy many many moons ago that had first hand experience with the licencing and MS calling. Why dont you do everyone a favor and wipe the drive then stop complaining --oh thats right the wife wont let you. whimp	wainuitech (129)
1428254	2016-11-19 01:05:00	Why dont you do everyone a favor and wipe the drive then stop complaining --oh thats right the wife wont let you. whimp Shh, the popcorn manufacturers will go out of business if he does ;)	pcuser42 (130)
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