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1428410 2016-11-05 23:38:00 Hi all,
I'd like some advice to get the best range from a wifi router. Currently I have an upstairs and downstairs router connected by cable. The upstairs router (Belkin N wireless) provides signal to 200m away that works on my older galaxy smartphone at speeds of up to 1/6mpbs (upload/download) at that distance. However, two problems:
For some peculiar reason this router doesnt work with any of the last two generations of Samsung galaxy phone. It's possible to see the network and connect to it but there is still no internet connection. Secondly, I'd like 360 degree range outside and I don't have that at the moment as the router is sitting on a window sill with line of site to the primary location I need to have wifi available in 200m away.
What I think would work is to find a router that allows an external antenna to be plugged in then I could rig up an antenna onto a pole up on the second story roof top.
Can anyone point me in the right direction to find equipment or a technician that can supply such a set up?

Thanks!
Johnnz (7246)
1428411 2016-11-06 19:51:00 https://www.gowifi.co.nz/

any tech/tradsman installing/working on your roof, by law now requires scaffolding . They cant just climb up a ladder & walk around on the roof.
That alone will cost you $$$$$$$
1101 (13337)
1428412 2016-11-06 20:49:00 any tech/tradsman installing/working on your roof, by law now requires scaffolding . They cant just climb up a ladder & walk around on the roof.
That alone will cost you $$$$$$$

Is that an OSH requirement? If so, I think they have gone mad. It will increase the unemployment rate. People won't bother getting small jobs done, like taking down all those now useless VHF TV aerials, or cleaning out the gutters.

Thank goodness I am a born-and-bred DIY Kiwi. Up to a point.
rumpty (2863)
1428413 2016-11-06 21:45:00 Is that an OSH requirement? If so, I think they have gone mad. It will increase the unemployment rate. People won't bother getting small jobs done, like taking down all those now useless VHF TV aerials, or cleaning out the gutters.

Thank goodness I am a born-and-bred DIY Kiwi. Up to a point.

The problem arises when you get too old and doddery to be going up ladders. I can still clean out gutters, but have to get a bloke in to clean the chimney flue and cowl. (he didn't use any scaffolding, so it may not be needed for some work ?)
Terry Porritt (14)
1428414 2016-11-06 22:01:00 Can be done by ladder for small one area jobs. Tech came out recently to replace UHF Ariel. Had ladder base weighted down, and special clips for spouting said to me that was OK for these type of jobs. Arnie (6624)
1428415 2016-11-06 22:58:00 Can be done by ladder for small one area jobs. Tech came out recently to replace UHF Ariel. Had ladder base weighted down, and special clips for spouting said to me that was OK for these type of jobs.

If he had fallen, you could have been held responsible under the new reg's .
Unfortunately, the Govt agencies websites are horribly out of date, with obsolete info (they had a year to update the websites )
1101 (13337)
1428416 2016-11-06 23:08:00 The problem arises when you get too old and doddery to be going up ladders. I can still clean out gutters, but have to get a bloke in to clean the chimney flue and cowl. (he didn't use any scaffolding, so it may not be needed for some work ?) I do work for a couple of guys who both run their own chimney businesses, both have taken all the sign writing off their vans because of these new laws.

I was told they have to wear harnesses and all sorts of safety gear these days even just going up a ladder, its not their customers who are reporting them if they don't , its other people in the same business if they are seen.
wainuitech (129)
1428417 2016-11-06 23:18:00 A mate was required by his company to be certified to go over 10ft up, 1/2 day course .
Its gotten a bit stupid.

Im sure tradies are just ignoring the new regulations .
1101 (13337)
1428418 2016-11-08 01:31:00 It's possible to see the network and connect to it but there is still no internet connection.
The problem there is likely the router isn't giving out DHCP for whatever reason. Get a better router that doesn't have a DHCP daemon crashing.


What I think would work is to find a router that allows an external antenna to be plugged in then I could rig up an antenna onto a pole up on the second story roof top.
You'd be better off having the actual whole *unit* up the roof, you don't want a long antenna cable or you lose signal, so the shorter the better.

The GoWiFi guys will be able to help you though.
Chilling_Silence (9)
1428419 2016-11-08 07:20:00 Wifi service out to 200m omnidirectional? Not possible, at least not reliably. The only hope would be a wireless access point (router) with beam-forming capabilities mounted on the roof inside some sort of electrically transparent weather shield.

A separate antenna wouldn't do the trick. That's partly because it would rule out beam-forming and partly because a cable could have losses of 6dB. An antenna gain of 6dB more than the reference would cancel these losses but the overall situation would be similar to the present (except 360° of service)



[A [I]point-to-point link over 200m would be an entirely different story (even if the remote point is still just a cellphone). An external corner reflector or parabola connected to an access point could easily have a gain of 12dB more than the reference. That would be equivalent to reducing the service distance from 200m to 50m]
BBCmicro (15761)
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