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Thread ID: 65705	2006-01-27 19:53:00	Electrical/plumbing help please	Greg (193)	PC World Chat

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424712	2006-01-29 09:42:00	Just like PC repairs........everyones an expert. My husband is often called out to fix the home "plumbers" screwups..... www.pgdb.co.nz It seems that the Plumbers Board knows that many of the slackers aren't "home" plumbers :-)	PaulD (232)
424713	2006-01-29 09:58:00	I'm not sure if the the tempering valve is a legal requirement in every case or not. I know that that previous owner of the house i'm staying in at the moment was forced to put in a tempering valve, but there's a coalrange here, so without a tempering valve there is the constant and real potential to have boiling water or steam on tap. yes with a wetback you need a tempering valve. it may have changed but i thought the reason you didn't need one is standard hotwater cylinders have thermstats which are ment <cough> to be set at 55. I mean, what good is 55° hot water... how pathetic, particually at the kitchen sink! When i do the dishes here, i usualy end up boiling the jug a couple of times to add to the 55° "hot" water coming from the tap, at home the waters hot enough to actually get stuff clean. folks have gas powered hot water system which is locked to 55. they ended up puting in an under bench hot water tank because they where sick of boiling the jug to do the washing up!	tweak'e (69)
424714	2006-01-29 10:09:00	A temperature setting below 60 degrees Celsius can increase the risk of Legionnaire's disease.	Safari (3993)
424715	2006-01-29 12:41:00	A temperature setting below 60 degrees Celsius can increase the risk of Legionnaire's disease. Unfortunately, scalding is much more common. It seems we like putting littlies in 65 deg water, littlies don't like us doing that though, sometimes they have the temerity to shed their skin and die. There's just no understanding the kids these days, lame little B's. As for legionnaires in your litchen sink, the idea is that it's not 55 exiting the HWC, mind, I haven't heard that it's rampant in domestic HW systems of late.	Murray P (44)
424716	2006-01-29 19:09:00	It seems that the Plumbers Board knows that many of the slackers aren't "home" plumbers :-)I've just replumbed a section of my friends house. The work i've done has been to replace the work of a "professional" plumber. There were 3 leaks, the ceiling was damp, water was dripping down the walls, and structual damage was something we wished to avoid. So i took to the ruined cieling panels with a skillsaw, and replaced what plumbing was needed. This was plumbing built in and around a leanto extension of the original house, so there was no nonbrutal access :( Leak 1: Not the plumbers fault - It appears my friend stuck a nail trough a pipe when she fixed the roof :( Leak 2: The plumbers fault - The crox nuts at the T join below the vent pipe were looser than finger tight. Keeping in mind that there's a coal range here, and the vent pipe can deal with venting boiling water, that's worse than just loose. It's downright dangerous... Leak 3: The plumbers fault - There were so many crimped polybuteline joins and bends... Hell, only one was left uncrimped :p At least this part is after the tempering valve, so the only thing at risk was a flooded cieling. I'll also note that the original "plumber" took the longest messiest route for the uninsulated polybutalene pipe. Clearly he was of the mentality were the customer needed to see what the huge bill was paying for rather than have the simplist and most direct efficiant hot water system possible This isn't the first time friends have called me in to fix a "plumbers" **** ups	personthingy (1670)
424717	2006-01-29 19:41:00	I should also note on the above job.... The connection on the outlet of the tempering valve was also loose, but not actually leaking (yet) Since replumbing the hot lines via a more direct and discreet path, effective shower pressure has noticably increased, which gives you an idea how much extra piping the "plumber" put in.	personthingy (1670)
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