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Thread ID: 65646	2006-01-25 20:50:00	Do NZ a great favor.	Eric (378)	PC World Chat

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424246	2006-01-25 23:37:00	So, feed the owner chocolate bars when the pitbull isn't looking. :lol: and watch him/her have a heart attack. Or at least get real fat :p	bob_doe_nz (92)
424247	2006-01-25 23:38:00	Pit bulls do scare me thouhg and there is no denying the disproportionate number of attacks by them in NZ. Yes, but then the people who are the types to train dogs to attack and be generally disobediant aren't usually going to pick a labrador or a border collie for the purpose, are they? Pits have a reputation, and it means that unfortunately they'll be chosen as guard dogs, attack dogs, fighting dogs - rather than as family pets. I loved my pits. They were the most loyal dogs and extremely low maintenance. When we had a litter, most of the pups ended up in family homes, and most of those homes had young children. I never heard any complaints from any of the new owners about the temperaments of those animals.	pixeldust (6619)
424248	2006-01-25 23:57:00	FYI: Sorry if that offends...but the local ASPCA says there are two kinds of pitbulls: Those who have maimed and killed, and those who haven't yet. Funny, because that contradicts what it says on the ASPCA website: Sadly, pit bulls have acquired a reputation as unpredictable, dangerous, and vicious. Their intimidating appearance has made them attractive to the wrong sorts of owner—people who are looking for a macho dog and end up encouraging aggressive behavior. In order to meet the growing demand for pit bulls, unscrupulous and uncaring breeders are producing puppies without maintaining the breed’s typical reliability with people. In fact, pit bulls are now notorious for redirecting aggression from a dog to any person who attempts to break up a fight. It is a shame what has happened to this loyal and affectionate breed. Having said all that, we must tell you that a well-bred, well-socialized, and well-trained pit bull is one of the most delightful, intelligent, and gentle dogs imaginable. Some of the most famous dogs in American history were pit bulls: Stubby, the most decorated United States war dog; Petey, the beloved mascot from Little Rascals, and Helen Keller’s faithful companion. Additionally, many pit bulls were featured in well-known advertising campaigns, such as Buster Brown shoes and Levis. The majority of pit bulls are still ambassadors for their breed, serving as loving companions, family members, and therapy dogs, working in search and rescue, narcotics and explosives detection, and police and sentry duty. Unfortunately, we often hear more about the exceptions than the rule.	pixeldust (6619)
424249	2006-01-26 00:06:00	Yes, but then the people who are the types to train dogs to attack and be generally disobediant aren't usually going to pick a labrador or a border collie for the purpose, are they? Pits have a reputation, and it means that unfortunately they'll be chosen as guard dogs, attack dogs, fighting dogs - rather than as family pets. I loved my pits. They were the most loyal dogs and extremely low maintenance. When we had a litter, most of the pups ended up in family homes, and most of those homes had young children. I never heard any complaints from any of the new owners about the temperaments of those animals.I will back this. This is the first dog I have ever owned (I say owned in a loose sense, it was my partners, she fell preggas and couldn't handle the dog jumping on her, so I started feeding him. Since then he listens to me mainly). We also have an almost 2 year old girl... who has been playing with him from early on (when she could walk) and tells him off lol. He is as placid as anything around her, and my partners older kids (teenagers) - even when eating. However, anyone else on the property is warned to stay out of his chain reach. Other little kids have been around him, he does nothing. However (and I sincerely doubt and hope this doesn't happen) should he ever do attack a kid, I will be delivering him to the vet and reporting it myself. Funny thing, when he is off the property (he has slipped his lead once or twice, and the collar broke another time) he is placid to strangers (to the point where the dog ranger opened his door and the dog hopped in). When walked, he is on a lead at all times, as I know some freak out and seeing him on a lead will hopefully ease there tension a bit.	Myth (110)
424250	2006-01-26 00:11:00	I've seen plenty of people with "dangerous" breeds that have taken good care of them, and the dogs aren't agressive at all. If you cross a purebred bulldog with a purebred lab, it makes a really good hunting dog. My friend has a few of them, and although they are ruthless in catching pigs, they would never hurt a human.	Greven (91)
424251	2006-01-26 00:33:00	Funny, because that contradicts what it says on the ASPCA website: Yup . . but you didn't read the first paragraph there did you? The puppy mills and street-breeders are the real culprits . The reputation proceeded them . . they are dangerous as no other breed, and I stand on what the local authorities have called the most dangerous dog, especially gone ferrel . They are not afraid of man . The streets and hills in this area are awash in abandoned ex-house pets that got a little too aggressive for the new baby, and then got tossed out into the woods to fend for themselves . And fend they do very well . I don't condemn the breed as much as I do the stupid owners who think it's cool to have a killer dog, at least by reputation that may or may not be true . A local coloratura had over 40 pits in his property to keep away the drug authorities . He trained them to kill by tossing tires to them and they would rip them to shreds . Now, even many machines have a tough time with steel-belted radial tires, but these dogs could shred a tire in a few minutes . It is, again, the lack of proper care and training that makes them dangerous . People who have this breed however seem to delite in letting them do as they please because of the fear they inspire in others . A wilded dog is very dangerous and like I said . . . is just a walking grenade with the pin pulled . I defer to reasonableness . . . . I would not want the chance encounter of any one of my kids and grandchildren to be mauled or killed by one . . . no matter if one was a movie star in the '40s . These dogs have jaws that equal tons of pressure, and that's not conducive to a safe, let alone secure household . Personally, I have been attacked by rotts and an occasional collie . . . but I think in those cases it might've been a rogue incident; the pits are more infamous for their escapades into mitigating the death of people and large animals here, and I don't think it's a rogue thing with them . I view them as all loose canons . It is a very few times a month that we don't have at least one case in the papers of a child being strangled or mauled or eaten by pitbulls . The headlines are very convincing to me .	SurferJoe46 (51)
424252	2006-02-20 04:16:00	Last Saturday one of our 10 year old cats was silly enough to venture onto the neighbours property. The injuries it sustained from the pit-bull cross were horrendous! Needles to say the cat had to be put to sleep. I have never witnessed the power of these dogs before, but I'm now totally convinced that they are a very violent breed indeed.	Veny (9690)
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