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Thread ID: 65908 2006-02-04 01:31:00 Failure or Genuis? beetle (243) PC World Chat
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427304 2006-02-04 01:31:00 What is happening to NZ's education system?
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. stuff . co . nz/stuff/manawatustandard/0,2106,3560961a6003,00 . html" target="_blank">www . stuff . co . nz

this is to do with NCEA, who sat them last year and have the results come out yet?

When are they going to stop fiddling with our childrens education?

I thought this was interesting, this so called failure at NCEA, is a fairly bright person according to Uni .

anyway i thought this was interesting . :rolleyes:

beetle
beetle (243)
427305 2006-02-04 01:51:00 We haven't got an education system any more. The market idiotology has destroyed it. Graham L (2)
427306 2006-02-04 01:55:00 Universities really couldn't care what you did at high school.
They only hope that students would show up with enough skills to produce essays that are readable.

How much money has gone down the toliet with this NCEA stuff.
gibler (49)
427307 2006-02-04 02:01:00 The drips in government is the problem and the current attitude that there can be no losers.
There is no market when the goverment distort things all the time.
Cicero (40)
427308 2006-02-04 02:20:00 Well I sat level 2 last year (6th form) and I only got the results on the 26th of Jan, I was talking to the assistant princilpal at my school, he handles all of the education stuff . Anyway he said that the tests all had to be marked and back into NZQA before xmas, then we don't get them until we go back, well close enough .

What does that say?

Also electronics, the grades are 'Almost achieved' and Achieved' you could get everything wrong and you still would get an 'Almost achieved' what is up with this? :confused:

I mean you don't even know how much you passed or failed by with this new system, you could be one mark off passing and you get fail or 'Not achieved' as they put it what is better 'Not Achieved' or 49%? they are both fail BUT you know how much you failed with the percentage, I believe it is fairer .

This NCEA is said to be easier to pass, but it is also easier to fail in some cases, they should have just left it how it was instead of playing round and stuffing it up .

NCEA should be put back and never have existed :annoyed:

Well that is just my :2cents: worth and the end of my speil :D
The_End_Of_Reality (334)
427309 2006-02-04 02:28:00 After starting uni I realised just how crap NCEA was. Really crap. I was in the unfortunate situation of doing subjects in relation to physical quantities (maths, chem, physics) rather than abstract ideas (essays). A fixed level might work well for essay related subjects (i.e. whats the difference between a 9/10 and 10/10), but when you run into finding the relatavistic speed of a proton and eigenvectors, it really doesn't work with a fixed level.

Reading the article I noticed the humanities were favoured which confirms my hypothesis.

Everything makes a lot more sense at uni.
DangerousDave (697)
427310 2006-02-04 03:54:00 Did 6th form, NCEA L2 last year. My observation was that it was VERY easy to pass.....no wait, ACHIEVE, except English. IMO, that was a very difficult subject for most people, in fact, I heard they had to re-do the marking for it.

My conclusion of NCEA, VERY easy to "achieve", VERY difficult to get "excellence".

Either way, they're putting us into VERY broad categories, there are only 4, N, A, M, E. I think that they should go back to percentage based marking.
Haze (3028)
427311 2006-02-04 04:57:00 Well, I just did Murry P's test and I think I 'excelled', mind you I do have a degree... of, umm 'maturity' :D

With NCEA it's the ones who leave secondary school to work that worry me. In my business I wouldn't employ anyone who had broadly speaking 'achieved'.
Shortcircuit (1666)
427312 2006-02-04 05:01:00 Couldn't agree more with you, Haze. English seems to be the hardest subject for me either (I was doing Year 12 English last year). I didn't manage to get any Excellences at all for any assessments in that subject. Sadly speaking, I failed the "Unfamiliar Text" assessment. In my opinion, you need to fall in love and take interest in the subjects that you are studying. For instance, I had only got two Merits for two of the external assessments in Chemistry; others I got Excellence :D

Cheers :)
Renmoo (66)
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