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Thread ID: 66141 2006-02-12 20:20:00 Telecom's latest UBS "offer" gibler (49) PC World Chat
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429742 2006-02-14 07:28:00 sam m

If it obvious it does not cost more to go to a higher up speed and I have detailed EXACTLY why in my previous post, you have just basically said "ninja said so".

As for ninjas comments concerning Ihugs caps, Keep in mind Orcon also have very decent caps, I suppose that's the same reason lol.

I suggest you should start thinking these things through for yourself?

If the government who have a HUGE state in Telecom are having to change there position, there must be a lot more than just hearsay in it, excluding what the Commerce commission have previously found.

Maybe ninja thinks the Commerce Commission and now the Government are wrong? does he work for telecom by any chance? lol
Battleneter (60)
429743 2006-02-14 07:43:00 Maybe ninja thinks the Commerce Commission and now the Government are wrong?
Wouldn't be the first time.
Greven (91)
429744 2006-02-14 07:45:00 the fact of the matter straight and true is that telecom is shafting the consumers. and the government is reinforcing that by siding with telecom and not introducing regulated prices and conditions. from memory the commerce commission said that telecom should offer wholesale 8mbps for $30 a month. slow uploads are also impacting on local business, webhosting, online photo printing, the film industry. remember when they shut down peering of the exchanges? cheap local traffic gone because of the money hungry telecom. Tux (606)
429745 2006-02-14 08:14:00 Uhh...yeah it does...how do you figure increasing the upload speed to 512k would cost Telecom no more $$?As far as I am aware the only money it would cost would be what they pay the technicians to flick a few switches, total data usage is still limited by the datacap. Obviously Telecom isn't going to do it by itself. It has too much too loose due to VOIP etc, and that's why they need competition.

Just ask yourself this question: Why should they have exclusive control over the internet services run through the national telephone system?
maccrazy (6741)
429746 2006-02-14 08:20:00 As far as I am aware the only money it would cost would be what they pay the technicians to flick a few switches, total data usage is still limited by the datacap. Obviously Telecom isn't going to do it by itself. It has too much too loose due to VOIP etc, and that's why they need competition.
So it does...yes?



Just ask yourself this question: Why should they have exclusive control over the internet services run through the national telephone system?
They shouldn't, but at least its NZ owned eh...
pine-o-cleen (2955)
429747 2006-02-14 08:21:00 webhosting.

This one I doubt. No webhosting company would use ADSL for their upstream, they'd be using Fibre links, which are not affected by xdsl (They'd get it straight from Orcon, Xtra, Ihug, Iconz etc, bypassing Telecom's network, so no deregulation needed)
Edward (31)
429748 2006-02-14 08:48:00 Edward is right, you shouldn't be hosting a site on an ADSL connection. Both 128k and 512k are too slow. Perhaps if it was at 1Mbit upstream it would be ok for a very small site, but it isn't designed for that purpose. :)

Actually, hosting is a good example of a service that is pretty much the same as far as value goes as broadband, with the major difference being you can escape local hosting fees by purchasing hosting on a server overseas. For my website, on a New Zealand based server would cost NZ$500 per month from Xtra (I can't tell what is included with their plans on their site, but I'm guessing it would be lacking essential services) or ~$120 from ihug per month. How much do you pay for overseas hosting? Approximately $50 per year depending on the host. Is it exactly the same? Yes, probably better. That doesn't mean you need to buy from a host run from outside New Zealand, just one that has the brains to put their servers outside New Zealand. :2cents:


They shouldn't, but at least its NZ owned eh...That's kind of the issue behind all this. ;)
maccrazy (6741)
429749 2006-02-14 10:31:00 Geez there's a lot of crapola sprouted on this thread.

But anyway, just wanted to add... there is a small niche for the 200Mb plan - eg my mam uses the Internet about 5 minutes per day exclusively for email. But she has a hobby that sometimes requires swapping large images between herself and others in her interest group.

She's currently on dialup, and a faster Internet connection would make a huge difference to her. She'd probably never go over the limit in all the years she has left to her.
Greg (193)
429750 2006-02-14 10:37:00 That doesn't make it value for money. Metla (12)
429751 2006-02-14 10:51:00 I agree with Metla - the plans are a complete joke...

The bigger joke is that the country is in this situation and has been for a very long time - what has been done? Nothing.

It's not just about getting faster speeds, bigger caps etc for individual home users - the situation affects the country as a whole and many many industries suffer because of it.

It's not good enough - we need competition to encourage cheaper prices, better services and boost our OECD rating - we should at least be on par with Australia. The current state of telecommunications in NZ is unacceptable - high prices, ageing technology, lack of common services available in other countries - it's embarassing to say the least... I feel sorry for people moving to this country and having to downgrade their life :lol:

Think of the potential benefits of unbundling - the only loser is Telecom - do I care? Should anyone care? No.

Stop being sheep - think about the big picture...
HadO (796)
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