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Thread ID: 66404	2006-02-21 19:22:00	Oh no our OECD ranking is only 22	sam m (517)	PC World Chat

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432645	2006-02-23 02:45:00	Agreed. Incentives in the right areas	KiwiTT_NZ (233)
432646	2006-02-23 04:09:00	Also encourage more investment in R and D in developing areas not the old sunset and mature areas such as the farming sector (by far the most of our R and D investment is in the primary sector which also has the problems associated with commodity price taking not making) . Actually I slightly disagree . NZs wealth 100 years ago came from agriculture . And today with computers, robots, and Artificial Intelligence available, NZs wealth comes from . . . . . . . . . . . . . agriculture (including timber, fishing, wine) . The only new element is tourism . NZ scientists leads the world in sheep genetics, and in the forefront of science for deer and cow research . Dare I suggest it, but developing computer games etc, sexy as it is, ain't going to do it . Everybody else does it already . But in animal bio-science we have some very sharp cookies . We can market our animal science just like any other product . And our agricultural produce needs to be dressed up and aimed at wealthy consumers who like the clean-green-natural brand . We need a point of difference as a nation and NZ is a valuable brand if we can push it .	Winston001 (3612)
432647	2006-02-23 04:35:00	We can't eat buzzwords . We won't get rich by exporting them . We get stupid policies which cause us permanent harm when we import buzzwords like "market" and "reform" and "free trade" . "Free trade agreements" with unscrupulous countries will bring us disaster . A "knowledge economy" will gain us nothing .	Graham L (2)
432648	2006-02-23 04:57:00	Perhaps we should emulate the successful countries, especially the great US of A, that great bastion of free enterprise, and.....dirty words in NZ....exercise a hands on approach to R&D, not just incentives. Over the years, from 1945 on, the US government investment in R&D by way of research contracts to universities, private industry, research labs, etc has been absolutely unimaginabley gi-normous, much of it connected with the miltary, but with enormous spin-off for civil use.	Terry Porritt (14)
432649	2006-02-23 21:10:00	I fully agree with you Terry that we as a nation need to spend a lot more on research and development. But who is going to pay for it? Raise taxes? Or cut government services? Bit of a connundrum. And does all R&D qualify? What if I need to go to Surfers to research legal software? In fact Dr Cullen introduced accelerated depreciation and write-offs of R&D a couple of years ago, which is some help. Ireland took an enormous punt (pun intended :D ) 15 years ago by granting tax breaks to tech companies. The difference is that the EU essentially subsidised this. We don't have an EU with deep pockets. So far the Irish experiment has been successful although I understand there are serious housing and social problems for the unskilled.	Winston001 (3612)
432650	2006-02-23 21:18:00	We could cut back on spending on the Arts and Culture for a start. These should be self funding. If people want it they will pay for it. When we are richer, we can then look at funding them again. In the interim let knuckle down and develop.	KiwiTT_NZ (233)
432651	2006-02-23 21:34:00	We could cut back on spending on the Arts and Culture for a start . I wouldv'e agreed with that thought a couple of years ago . But now, I reckon our Arts and Culture is almost equal to our Sports in giving us international recognition . Which of course prompts tourism, and which in turn prompts trade . Getting NZ recognised as a prime place to either visit or buy from, has got to be paramount . Doesn't matter what product, service or industry - anyone who buys from us helps the guy in the street here . Keep in mind too - that the international audience that appreciates Art and Culture, generally tend to have a lot of influence and, therefore a lot of money . Sure I made that up, but it's probably true .	Greg (193)
432652	2006-02-23 21:38:00	Sports yes. Music Yes. Arts ??? Culture ??? The former 2 are self funding now.	KiwiTT_NZ (233)
432653	2006-02-23 22:00:00	Sports yes. Music Yes. Arts ??? Culture ??? The former 2 are self funding now.Hmm - The America's Cup wasn't self funding. It required a decent amount of sponsorship from the Government. [edit] By "The America's Cup" I meant our defence of it in NZ.	Greg (193)
432654	2006-02-23 22:06:00	Some funding will have to be cut back if we need to get ahead in science/technology . We can look at it when we have more money . Just like a student cuts back on things while learning, so should the country .	KiwiTT_NZ (233)
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