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| Thread ID: 66570 | 2006-02-27 20:14:00 | What is wrong with prisoners working in areas where you need workers | KiwiTT_NZ (233) | PC World Chat |
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| 434287 | 2006-02-27 20:14:00 | NZ Herald (www.nzherald.co.nz) reports it. We should also have any income they earn paid as restitution to their victims. This is a good step. First get them working and earning a wage. Then get them paying back their costs to society and victims. |
KiwiTT_NZ (233) | ||
| 434288 | 2006-02-27 20:30:00 | most of the prisoners that would be allowed to partisipate in a scheme like that would be "low risk" prisoners that either didn't have victims (drug charges) or haven't done enough damage to their victims to warrant all their wages being confiscated. | Greven (91) | ||
| 434289 | 2006-02-27 20:30:00 | Being a business owner myself, I wouldn't want to compete against someone who has labour available at 60c per hour. But after reading that article, the Dept of Corrections is paid the normal hourly rate and the prisoners receive a token pay. I agree, some of restitution would be good. | andrew93 (249) | ||
| 434290 | 2006-02-27 20:36:00 | the Dept of Corrections is paid the normal hourly rate and the prisoners receive a token pay. Ah. I wondered about that. I was thinking they'd all request prisoners and people looking for this sort of thing at a reasonable - ish pay would miss out. So why not, and the prisoners get to do something other than sit about. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 434291 | 2006-02-27 20:38:00 | or haven't done enough damage to their victims to warrant all their wages being confiscated.The fact that they are monitored/guarded etc., is still a cost on society so some payback would be good. However, society must still pay some to inforce it's standards. | KiwiTT_NZ (233) | ||
| 434292 | 2006-02-27 20:44:00 | The fact that they are monitored/guarded etc., is still a cost on society so some payback would be good. However, society must still pay some to inforce it's standards. they should get about half of the money they earn to recognise that they are doing something other than being a burden on society. |
Greven (91) | ||
| 434293 | 2006-02-27 20:45:00 | there wa a bit on tv about this the other day. most ofthe work schemes where closed down do to them not turning a profit. a little hard to make them pay $$ back if they don't make any. however i fully support the work schemes, much better to have them doing something than siteing around being further intrreanched into that life by their cell mates. |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 434294 | 2006-02-27 21:02:00 | This particular work looks like an excellent idea. As to wider work opportunities there are issues: 1. Competition with existing law-abiding workers and businesses. 2. Training 3. Supervision and control. It can be more expensive to us as taxpayers to have prisoners taken to jobs than simply keeping them in the one spot. However the answer to that is prison factories. The difficulty is to pick a meaningful type of industry that doesn't undermine other workers. Ideally prisoners should work to gain new skills, develop self-esteem, work habits, be kept busy, and produce something of value. Making number plates has its limits. :D The best job is something which no-one else is doing - but if it is profitable, then someone will be doing it already. Quite a conundrum but I agree that prisoners should work. Not just to pay their way but because this might be the best chance to steer them into a normal working life. |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 434295 | 2006-02-27 21:43:00 | Chain gang on the coast digging for coal, should keep the greenies happy | Rob99 (151) | ||
| 434296 | 2006-02-28 02:09:00 | Get them breaking rocks with pick axes & hammers to use as gravel......Save fuel!.........IMAO. Hey the locals in India seem happy with their job's. Oooooo, who cares, lets just shoot the burdens/predators of society.....LOL |
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