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Thread ID: 66485 2006-02-24 23:41:00 Are you a New Zealander or a European? Scouse (83) PC World Chat
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433468 2006-02-24 23:41:00 The following is going the rounds......

Did you know that New Zealand is pretty much the only place in the world
that you can not actually be a New Zealander?
Whenever you fill out a form or survey in New Zealand you can tick the box
to say you are Maori, Tongan, Samoan, Australian, European (or NZ born of
European Decent), Asian, etc but there is no box provided to say "Yes, I
am a New Zealander and I am proud to be one"
In Australia, you can be an Australian... In fact in Australia you can be
a New Zealander. Why is it that we can't be New Zealanders in our own
country? Most people are proud of their ethnicity, heritage and family
origins and so will tick whichever box they feel applies to them, and they
have every right to do so whether they are Maori, Pacific Islander,
European etc Many of us however consider that we, and our families, have
been in New Zealand for long enough now that we should be able to claim
that as who we are... regardless of where our ancestors may have come
from many centuries ago or what the colour of our skin or shape of our
face might indicate.
If you support us in our desire to be recognised as New Zealanders in our
own country then there is only one way that this can be achieved...
On the 2006 NZ Census form, when you are asked for your ethnicity, choose
the option "Other" and state your ethnicity as "New Zealander"
If we can get enough people to do this then maybe, just maybe, we can get
the powers that be to sit up and recognise that we are proud of who we
are and that we want to be recognised as such, not divided into
sub-categories and all treated as foreigners in our own country.
Please forward this on to as many people as you can; friends, people you
work with, kiwis you know who are overseas, anyone... No, you won't
receive amazing good luck by doing so but you will have the knowledge that
you have done your bit to help fight for our right to be recognised as who
we are in this proud and strong country of ours.
And remember... at census time... "Other - New Zealander!" (and proud of it)
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Interesting. I suppose I am Other - English, despite living here 48 years and having an ancient bit of paper for citizenship. England became politically part of the continental Europe long after I left and I have definitely never classed myself as European. My children, grandchildren and great grandchildren, all born in New Zealand are definitely not European. Yes, very interesting.
Scouse (83)
433469 2006-02-24 23:49:00 I AM A BANANA!!!!

Yellow on the outside and white on the inside :p
bob_doe_nz (92)
433470 2006-02-24 23:53:00 I am a parsnip!

White on the outside and white on the inside.

Though I know what you're on about. Sometimes I say Pakeha, sometimes South Pacific White.
mark c (247)
433471 2006-02-25 00:10:00 Quote: "Did you know that New Zealand is pretty much the only place in the world
that you can not actually be a New Zealander?

Except when the politicians are rabitting on, as they do all the time, about those mythical ordinary New Zealanders.

I suppose we should hold a poll to find out how many think they or we are just ordinary?
Terry Porritt (14)
433472 2006-02-25 00:34:00 If not given the option I just cross the **** out and write New Zealander, LOUD AND PROUD. Metla (12)
433473 2006-02-25 01:00:00 I can't remember what I put in the last survey, but this time I will be looking for the option that says "I'm a furkin 2nd Generation Kiwi But of Russian Descent and I Import all my Furkin Diesal Powered Nuke Missiles in my Lady's Handbag". :thumbs: Greg (193)
433474 2006-02-25 01:17:00 Thats not true. Apparently quite a few people write in Kiwi or NZer.
And perhaps that question shouldn't be there at all.
pctek (84)
433475 2006-02-25 04:20:00 Whenever you fill out a form or survey in New Zealand you can tick the box
to say you are Maori, Tongan, Samoan, Australian, European (or NZ born of
European Decent), Asian, etc but there is no box provided to say "Yes, I
am a New Zealander and I am proud to be one"The census is designed to find out how the country is made up, not to state the obvious. It makes no sense to put down "New Zealander" because it doesn't tell them anything what-so-ever, they already know that.
maccrazy (6741)
433476 2006-02-25 04:40:00 New Zealander and darned proud of it!!
How many Maori etc are pure blood of that race? Most of us have a "lil bit of this and a lil bit of that."
Personally, I don't know any "ordinary" New Zealanders, every one is unique.
Stand up and be counted New Zealanders!!!

There now...I feel a better :thumbs:

Cheers, Marnie
Marnie (4574)
433477 2006-02-25 04:48:00 The census is designed to find out how the country is made up, not to state the obvious. It makes no sense to put down "New Zealander" because it doesn't tell them anything what-so-ever, they already know that.

Good point. What the census (or that part of it) is about is the ethnicity of the population, what people are on about here is "why can't I be called a New Zealander or a Kiwi?" which is understandable, but not very helpful in terms of forward planning/statistics.

:2cents: m
mark c (247)
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