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Thread ID: 66485 2006-02-24 23:41:00 Are you a New Zealander or a European? Scouse (83) PC World Chat
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433548 2006-03-02 19:19:00 Seems to me the question on race is a roundabout way of asking whether you are maori or European. Probably not PC to ask outright. Even if they did ask the answer would be meaningless. I know a pair of twins who had a part Maori great grandmother. One of them says he is maori and the other says he is European. It makes you laugh.

Me . I am a New Zealander.
JJJJJ (528)
433549 2006-03-03 04:08:00 Maybe they aren't identical twins, Jack. :thumbs: Graham L (2)
433550 2006-03-03 04:10:00 Health funding is not race based . End of discussion on health and sickness .


As for comments like 'get over it' . What is it with this forum where if someone has a differing opinion they either have to get over it or are tagged as whingers? This is part of having a debate / discussion .

Actually Andrew, health funding does have ethnic elements . Maori for example suffer more from diabetes and heart disease .

But I agree with you about being castigated for simply having a point of view . Keep it up . :thumbs:
Winston001 (3612)
433551 2006-03-03 05:30:00 Actually Andrew, health funding does have ethnic elements . Maori for example suffer more from diabetes and heart disease .

But I agree with you about being castigated for simply having a point of view . Keep it up . :thumbs:
Are you saying,if Maori's had more funding,they would be healthier?
Cicero (40)
433552 2006-03-03 05:33:00 It's not such much about funding for Maori Cicero. What Winston is referring to are primary healthcare programmes (largely preventaitve and educational programmes) targeted at high risk groups. Such programmes are designed to keep people out of hospital but unfortunately they don't get the funding they deserve and they don't quite reach the people they are intended to target (a proportion of which are Maori). I don't have any issues with this and keeping people out of hospital is a good thing.
A
andrew93 (249)
433553 2006-03-03 05:40:00 Surely a feed of week old boil-up, a packet of pocket edition and a couple crates of Lion Brown would knock any diabetes and heart disease on the head. Metla (12)
433554 2006-03-03 05:45:00 It's not such much about funding for Maori Cicero. What Winston is referring to are primary healthcare programmes (largely preventaitve and educational programmes) targeted at high risk groups. Such programmes are designed to keep people out of hospital but unfortunately they don't get the funding they deserve and they don't quite reach the people they are intended to target (a proportion of which are Maori). I don't have any issues with this and keeping people out of hospital is a good thing.
A
Are you saying,that people when feeling unwell,don't know to go to the doctor?.
I might point out,that to go to the doctor in Northland is free.
Cicero (40)
433555 2006-03-03 05:50:00 Surely a feed of week old boil-up, a packet of pocket edition and a couple crates of Lion Brown would knock any diabetes and heart disease on the head.
Why can't I get to the heart of the matter like that?.
Thanks Met once again.
Cicero (40)
433556 2006-03-04 00:33:00 In England we are offered afro caribbean, asian, indian a few more ,then uk
England is missing so I too opt for 'other' English.

Mickb
mickb (5065)
433557 2006-03-04 01:57:00 . . . . . and no-one has yet answered my question of when does a country become an ethnic group?
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Tough one Andrew . I cannot think of any nation formed in recent centuries which is synonomous with an ethnic group . China and Japan have existed for millenia and they still have distinct ethnic sub-groups within their nations . Eg . China - Tartar, Han, Mongol, Tibetan, Manchu, Kazak etc etc .

So answering the census question "New Zealander" might be emotionally satisfying but of no statistical value or interest at all .

To avoid the kerfuffle perhaps there should be too questions - nationality, and ethnic group . That would satisfy peoples dignity as well as being informative .
Winston001 (3612)
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