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Thread ID: 66730 2006-03-05 21:05:00 Proof, that most of us on middle-incomes are going backwards KiwiTT_NZ (233) PC World Chat
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435858 2006-03-10 06:06:00 ...The $NZ was at 39c in about 2000...

...Petrol will rise with a lower exchange rate...Ironically we were paying around 75c a litre in 2000 ;)

Mike.
Mike (15)
435859 2006-03-10 06:25:00 Here is the Reserve Bank data on exchange rates since 1985:

www.rbnz.govt.nz
Terry Porritt (14)
435860 2006-03-10 06:36:00 Enterprise tends to diminish when you have a government that distorts the market. Cicero (40)
435861 2006-03-11 00:14:00 In the middle ages you worked on Mondays. Once a year (harvest) you worked an entire week.
The rest of the time was your own.Some of us do live close to that standard now of luxury now.. The rest of us a so stupid we are spending our entire lives subsidizing multibedroom houses often for 1, filled with so much total name brand consumer rubbish that we never have a hope of ever living within simple means!

Personally i'm working towards the former state, but the habits of a lifetime keep me surrounded with the misery of exessive assets.

We are only "poor" if we choose not to be satisfied with our lot

So don't forget kiddies... Watch that TV, learn all about all that stuff you totally need, and you to can be miserable while debating how "the government" is to blame for you not having it all unless you work 100 hours a week, and how we are all so badly off....

Poor my arse. We are just brainwashed to believe that we need 10 tons of bling in our lives.
personthingy (1670)
435862 2006-03-11 00:44:00 Some of us do live close to that standard now of luxury now.. The rest of us a so stupid we are spending our entire lives subsidizing multibedroom houses often for 1, filled with so much total name brand consumer rubbish that we never have a hope of ever living within simple means!

Personally i'm working towards the former state, but the habits of a lifetime keep me surrounded with the misery of exessive assets.

We are only "poor" if we choose not to be satisfied with our lot

So don't forget kiddies... Watch that TV, learn all about all that stuff you totally need, and you to can be miserable while debating how "the government" is to blame for you not having it all unless you work 100 hours a week, and how we are all so badly off....

Poor my arse. We are just brainwashed to believe that we need 10 tons of bling in our lives.


Amen to that. I totally agree. :thumbs:
Winston001 (3612)
435863 2006-03-11 02:54:00 In response to Mike, in 2000, the price of crude oil was less than $30 a barrel, now it is over $60.

So the difference in petrol prices between then and now is probably accountable by the crude price differences even taking exchange rates into the equation.

www.wtrg.com
Terry Porritt (14)
435864 2006-03-11 07:24:00 I hadn't realised you'd been to my place, personthingy, but you give such a good description of "excessive assets" that you must have called some time when I was out. Laura (43)
435865 2006-03-13 00:14:00 " And what is wrong with $1.80 litre petrol, "
Most people don't earn enough to afford it.Time to get on the bus.



" get a lot of those SUVs off the road and getting people buying more enviromentally friendly cars. "

What SUV? and but a new on with What? I paid $800 for my car.You get what you pay for



" Transport via rail will be more attractive again. "
What rail transport? Would be ok if it wasn't a joke.It was good before the right-wing got hold of it. We should limit the distance road-transport can be used again.



" Maybe we should go through a period of hardship in the retail sector. People may then begin to buy quality again, i.e. for a longer period of time. "

Again, people go to the Warehouse because its cheap.And again and again and again ... Good for the warehouse, bad for the customer.



- Food. We make our own as you say.
We make some food.Good on you



- Houses. We have plenty of timber.

Theres more to it than timber and we only have pine in any numbers.Still we can treat it and build with it.



- Power. We have plenty of rivers. Just dam a few more more.

Oh sure, look what happened in Otago - it got cancelled because of all the protests.Balme the greenies and the nimbies. Still a good idea in my opinion. Much cleaner than coal and oil burning.



We can then start exporting what we do well, Farming products etc.

We already do that. We are not the only country in the world selling these products.But we do this really well.



I don't know what you imagine the average wage is now.$592 per week (i.e. $2,500 per month or $30,000 per annum)
KiwiTT_NZ (233)
435866 2006-03-13 02:22:00 In response to Mike, in 2000, the price of crude oil was less than $30 a barrel, now it is over $60.

So the difference in petrol prices between then and now is probably accountable by the crude price differences even taking exchange rates into the equation.

www.wtrg.com
I think we can take that as read.Can't think of anything else that influences the price.
Cicero (40)
435867 2006-03-13 04:04:00 I think we can take that as read.Can't think of anything else that influences the price.

Yes. But it does no harm to state the obvious.

If, however, the exchange rate falls to the 2000 level over the next month or two, then the price of consumer items like PCs will increase more than proportionately because of the much higher costs of importational transport this time around.

The second hand market in PCs would probably flourish again.

A $900 Warehouse computer could go up to around $1500.
Terry Porritt (14)
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