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Thread ID: 67101 2006-03-17 02:28:00 TVNZ takes pity on Telecom’s OECD top-ten broadband stu161204 (123) PC World Chat
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438737 2006-03-17 02:28:00 From: Computerworld (computerworld.co.nz)


TVNZ takes pity on Telecom’s OECD top-ten broadband

A usually reliably informed source tells me that Telecom begged and cajoled TVNZ not to stream high-bitrate streaming video of the Commonwealth Games in Melbourne. Last time TVNZ put on 1 and 2Mbit/s streaming video was during the ASB Tennis tournament in Auckland, an event that many a desktop-bound office hound eagerly followed during the day over Telecom’s OneOffice internet access.

Unfortunately, my source says, all of Telecom’s OneOffice runs over a single 155Mbit/s ATM link which totally dropped the ball when the streaming video was served. Game, set and match to TVNZ.

Furthermore, the source says that as Telecom didn’t peer at the Auckland Exchange for national connectivity, its Xtra ISP was hit by a massive amount of incoming overseas traffic which had tromboned out of Auckland across pricey international circuits rather than going over New Zealand links.

Something had to be done, clearly, which is why the TVNZ feeds of the Commonwealth Games are a mere 128kbit/s. Well, they’re actually about twice that quality, at 252kbit/s currently, because apparently they were unwatchable at the lower bitrate.

Telecom has also quietly dumped its anti-peering policy to avoid national traffic tromboning overseas, I hear, and now started peering with other providers at the Auckland and Wellington exchanges, for regional routes. Asked the staunchly anti-peering TelstraClear if they would do the same to save on international traffic charges, but they must be fed-up with the issue because I never heard back from them.

If FryUp readers have further information about the above, I would love to hear it.

Why is this important, you may ask? Well, Peter Griffin’s column in today’s Herald points to one reason, namely how the so-called new media is a tremendous success in the UK, thanks to their better broadband. It’s Telecom’s job to see to it that we too can watch live streaming video without office workers’ VPNs collapsing.


Telecom has also quietly dumped its anti-peering policy to avoid national traffic tromboning overseas, I hear, and now started peering with other providers at the Auckland and Wellington exchanges, for regional routes. Asked the staunchly anti-peering TelstraClear if they would do the same to save on international traffic charges, but they must be fed-up with the issue because I never heard back from them.

Does any one know any thing more on this?
stu161204 (123)
438738 2006-03-17 02:48:00 I just can't take any called Peter Griffin seriously after just watching a heap of old family guy episodes Greven (91)
438739 2006-03-17 05:22:00 In my opinion they should have done it anyway. It only helps Telecom's argument that our broadband is more than adequate if everyone cuts back their services to compensate for the lack of capacity.

I notice that there is a similar service for Australians (http://m2006.bigpond.com/). Does anyone know how to get around the location restrictions or how it compares with what TVNZ is offering?

While on the topic, would it kill them to offer alternative formats? Windows Media streams are absolutely horrible for Mac users - they don't even work half the time...
maccrazy (6741)
438740 2006-03-17 05:30:00 what happened to everyone offering quicktime & windows media streams? Are macs even more insignificant than they were 5 years ago? Greven (91)
438741 2006-03-17 05:40:00 Is that possible?














Wait . . . . . . . . . , Official word has just come through, Macs are indeed now more insignificant then ever before .
Metla (12)
438742 2006-03-17 05:57:00 Windows Media streaming is free - the licence for it comes with Windows server .

Other streaming formats like Real/Quicktime have huge licencing costs .

We're currently assessing our options for the streaming content we provide and it's proving very costly .
ninja (1671)
438743 2006-03-17 06:08:00 Is Real still alive? I haven't seen anything in their format for years Greven (91)
438744 2006-03-17 06:55:00 Windows Media streaming is free - the licence for it comes with Windows server . I thought the same was the case with QuickTime Streaming Server and Mac OS X Server:


On which platforms can I use QuickTime Streaming Server 5 . 5?
QuickTime Streaming Server 5 . 5 is included as part of Mac OS X Server v10 . 4 . - Apple's site . There is also the open source alternative Darwin Streaming Server ( . apple . com/opensource/server/streaming/index . html" target="_blank">developer . apple . com) which is free .


Is Real still alive? I haven't seen anything in their format for years I just installed the latest version . As I hadn't used it for a good number of years I was pleasantly surprised .
maccrazy (6741)
438745 2006-03-17 07:44:00 I thought the same was the case with QuickTime Streaming Server and Mac OS X Server:Unfortunately our clients aren't particularly keen on QuickTime (and to be honest QuickTime on Windows is pretty poor). The PC platform appeals as well for throwing many audio cards in one box and streaming them all from one server.

- Apple's site. There is also the open source alternative Darwin Streaming Server (developer.apple.com) which is free. One of the other guys looked at this - and I think there were licencing problems for commerical use and something to do with the way the streams were created that was problematic.

I just installed the latest version. As I hadn't used it for a good number of years I was pleasantly surprised.Realplayer on Mac is a far far cry from the horror that is RealPlayer on Windows.
ninja (1671)
438746 2006-03-17 07:51:00 Quote:
Telecom has also quietly dumped its anti-peering policy to avoid national traffic tromboning overseas, I hear, and now started peering with other providers at the Auckland and Wellington exchanges, for regional routes. Asked the staunchly anti-peering TelstraClear if they would do the same to save on international traffic charges, but they must be fed-up with the issue because I never heard back from them.


Does any one know any thing more on this?Curious. I don't see any Xtra routes on APE or WIX - unless they've entered into something privately.
ninja (1671)
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