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Thread ID: 67054 2006-03-15 19:12:00 Diesel Car - Yes or no? Mike (15) PC World Chat
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438411 2006-03-18 07:35:00 You don't want an old wornout diesel, no matter what the price.
Dam right!!.
1991?? Hell that is 15 years old!!
Peugeot, Citroen, Bmw, Audi etc are now making some very quick, clean diesels but I have yet to see the Japs following suit.
Of course this comes at a price.
Stick to Nz new petrol, as new as you can afford, with a good service record. Toyota springs to mind for reliability & cheap running.
NO 4x4 will be cheap to run, nice to drive, enviromentally friendly or safe.
rmcb (164)
438412 2006-03-18 07:44:00 That flap at the back that drops down is a huge pain in the back, literally, when it comes to loading and unloading things and can be a real back buster. Definitely not good when coupled with the height of it for lifting heavy prams and baby gear in and out even though there is heaps of room in the back for such things compared to other vehicles. A station wagon car is far more back friendly.

Good point Susan. In fact that's why I didn't buy a 4 Runner and waited until the Prado was released. We had a new freshly minted baby at the time and loading stuff over a taildoor wasn't a good prospect.
Winston001 (3612)
438413 2006-03-18 07:50:00 Peugeot, Citroen, Bmw, Audi etc are now making some very quick, clean diesels but I have yet to see the Japs following suit.
errr.....fyi some of those vechiles are actually powered by jab motors. they are simply not promoted here because untill this year we havn't had fuel good enough to use in them.

the big difference, in europe they love deisels. no doubt the fuel prices and taxes influence that to a fair degree. unfortunatly the goverment here simply makes small deisel cars costlier to run even tho they use less fuel.
tweak'e (69)
438414 2006-03-18 07:53:00 NO 4x4 will be cheap to run, nice to drive, enviromentally friendly or safe.

May I most respectfully object? RUBBISH

My Prado with full-time 4wd is better to drive than a car. Turbo diesel performs like a car. Better view of the road, countryside, oncoming traffic, and potential obstacles. Substantial body to absorb shock in the event of an accident. Burns diesel which is better than petrol.

So there. :p
Winston001 (3612)
438415 2006-03-18 08:16:00 May I most respectfully object? RUBBISH

My Prado with full-time 4wd is better to drive than a car. Turbo diesel performs like a car. Better view of the road, countryside, oncoming traffic, and potential obstacles. Substantial body to absorb shock in the event of an accident. Burns diesel which is better than petrol.

So there. :p

Not to mention, if you feel the urge you can swerve off the state highway and go bush. It's amazing where you can go with a 4WD if you want to. With such a beautiful country why wouldn't you go out exploring it. That reason alone justifies owning a 4WD. ;)
Sb0h (3744)
438416 2006-03-18 08:46:00 ooo...winston...thats debatable ;)

they are heavy which means they are not cheap to run. the high centre of gravity means they will always handle poorer exspecially at the vechiles limit.
no fuel burning vechile is enviromentally friendly and there is no such thing as a safe vechile.

however with all that said the single biggest problem with 4x4's is the drivers who drive them like cars. drive them like a 4x4 and they are fine but its a whole different story if you drive them like a car.
tweak'e (69)
438417 2006-03-18 10:19:00 Something like my all wheel drive would suit your wife & kids, Mike.

It's a Subaru Legacy TSR 2.0 station wagon.
It's roomy and the rear door opens upwards, so loading is easy.

It drives very smoothly & is a good off-roader, with none of the height/balance/overturning issues.
It also gets no glares at intersections or supermarkets.
Laura (43)
438418 2006-03-18 10:48:00 It's a Subaru Legacy TSR 2.0 station wagon.
It also gets no glares at intersections or supermarkets.

My advice to everyone is to pull over or do whatever you have to do to avoid Subarus at all costs, just let them go, give the drivers plenty of space.
PaulD (232)
438419 2006-03-18 18:31:00 This is my daily-driver, "www.imagef1.net.nz ", the vehicle that I take everywhere....town, woods, High Sierras, work (when I usta do that!), and unfortunately, it is not a diesel. Wish it was!

Here's a suggestion for a good...all-around vehicle with plenty of space, easy-access doors, and good traction. :rolleyes: www.imagef1.net.nz even though it's not diesel.
SurferJoe46 (51)
438420 2006-03-18 20:00:00 Not to mention, if you feel the urge you can swerve off the state highway and go bush. It's amazing where you can go with a 4WD if you want to. With such a beautiful country why wouldn't you go out exploring it. That reason alone justifies owning a 4WD. ;)
I've run out of fingers trying to count the amount of people i've met who own huge unstable jeep like 4 wheel drives and only use them in our (CHCH) already congested non-rural roads.

I wonder how much of AKs traffic woes would disappear if this sort of vehicle was banned from AKs non-rural streets? ;)
personthingy (1670)
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