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Thread ID: 67428	2006-03-27 09:42:00	It has come to my attention..... life observation.	beetle (243)	PC World Chat

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441218	2006-03-28 09:46:00	Personally i think that technology can be blamed for all sorts of things, but then again so can the third ring of Jupiter.. The only real change is how we communicate long distance. As for it somehow getting in the way of real communication.. Humbug! I talk to old friends by phone and email, without which it would be almost impossible to have kept contact, particually with unexpected moves and the likes. Yes hand written letters are nice, but what matters is that someone has reached out and communicated. The actual medium is irrelevant.	personthingy (1670)
441219	2006-03-28 21:03:00	this about a comment some one made to me, (online) about their life, and i didnt know...... and i felt i let them down when they needed this support.... life is often difficult enuf with out people being ignorant of what is going on in your friends life... Why do we have to fill our lives up so totally that we often dont see what is going on in others? living to work? or working to live? yeah i know another dribble thread, Not another dribble thread, Beetle! Thanks for putting yet another interesting post here on PF1. Two comments: First, was it perhaps a failure of the person (whom you let down when they needed support) of them communicating with you? Perhaps they were not clear with you about their problem and what they wanted from you. Communication is a two way street and maybe you should not take most of the blame. Secondly, I would like to bring the movie Crash to everyone's attention. This is a brilliant film that has won many awards (www.imdb.com) . Some of what Beetle writes about is in this film. It makes you think about how you / we see others, and how we connect with them.	Strommer (42)
441220	2006-03-29 00:10:00	So in a way........youre saying that technology has changed so much it is impeading our life? We have no time for sharing? caring or nice attitudes? Or secrets? Will we become so anti life, that we never leave home eventually??? never work? never socialise? beetle Interesting question. Back in 1997 at the start of the dot.com boom, commentators were predicting that in the future most people would work on-line from home. Shopping would be online too of course. As a result some companies started to empty their offices and create virtual offices with laptops and wireless systems for their staff. Large companies like Ford and General Motors closed franchise car sales believing that in the future people would buy cars online. Some of this dramatic change did occur but mostly it all fell flat. Why? Because humans are social creatures and like to mix with each other. Gathering around the coffee machine for a natter can't happen online. Shopping malls are fun cos you meet others and can actually handle whatever you might buy. So while we can enjoy chat, emails and messages, and phone conversations, they can only ever be a pale imitation of actually being in the presence of another person. Cicero is right.	Winston001 (3612)
441221	2006-03-29 01:06:00	Cicero is right As far as I am aware,it was always thus.	Cicero (40)
441222	2006-03-29 03:15:00	I'm not sure if the online buying revolution failed to happen as quickly as expected for social reasons alone. People are reluctant to give credit card details online, and for good reason. but for me, the main thing that puts me off online shopping is that i want to be able to ask difficult questions, to be able to physicly see the product, and if the product fails, i want the complaining customer to have a face with the seller.	personthingy (1670)
441223	2006-03-29 03:43:00	I like online shopping. Credit cards are safe, if you get some dodgy transaction the credit card company refunds it. Its not safe for the retailer though, they get a dodgy card and its tough. But internet banking solves all that. It works for some things, I wouldn't buy some clothes online, mainly because you need to try things on often. Or cars. Unless it was brand new maybe. Hell, I wouldn't even buy one in person from a car dealer without disbelieving everything he said. Books are good, software, hardware. BTW have replaced the $800 1987 Corolla w8ith a $1500 1989 Corolla. Can't actually drive it yet until the foot mends and won't be going back up Bowmont St anytime soon either. I see why now, we went and had a look - all the roads crossing Bowmont have the Give Ways until Conon, then its Bowmont giving way - except there are NO road markings at all, and I drove obliviously through it, missing the sign....	pctek (84)
441224	2006-03-29 03:47:00	Good point personthingiee . I wanted a pair of Merrill shoes, they are over $280 here in NZ, which i consider an outragious price for a pair of sneakers . I looked on the net and found I could have got them from Amazon for about NZ$150 I think, which bought it back into reality as a purchase . So i went to a shop here, tried on the shoes till I got the right size and then went to order them from Amazon . To my annoyance I found that they wouldn't sell them out of America . So much the ease of using the internet . There were no other places to buy them either except from Europe where they were a similar price to here . So I didn't get them, darn nice shoes as well . . . . what was the point of this??? Oh yeah, the internet can be as much smoke and mirrors than actual reality .	netchicken (4843)
441225	2006-03-29 04:11:00	But think of the money you can save by wearing virtual shoes. Take this to extremes and you can have virtual clothes, too. Just like the Emperor's new clothes. No-one can see what you are wearing (or not) when you're on the Internet. Unless you have a webcam. :) There was a young lady who had one when she was at university ... I think she went commercial and made some money later. Is the jennicam site still going?	Graham L (2)
441226	2006-03-29 06:34:00	It seems it's not. Jennicam (news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3360063.stm) is no more. ("jennicam" to Google will find various tributes).	Graham L (2)
441227	2006-03-29 06:46:00	Self preservation is high on the priority list of life for me at the moment, and id say alot of people here would admit the same . . . . . But im not really sure the rest of the crew here got the gist of what i was on about . . . . . . . . . Why dont we let others help in our lives? why can we not just be grraceful and accept help? or words of comfort??? Why can we not just walk down the street and go meet the next pf1 person? i have met some really great ones offline . . . . . and the support has been great, both by pc and personal life issues . . . . Im not sure i was getting at technology, but using it as a start point, or a cop out maybe? I have met some really nice people because of being online, (not pf1 people) and can say that most people online are honest, but this may not be the norm? may have to think a bit deeper here . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . i seem to have lost the focus i was trying to point out . . . . :illogical beetle	beetle (243)
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