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| Thread ID: 92118 | 2008-07-29 21:38:00 | For JJJJJ - MS FSX | pctek (84) | Press F1 |
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| 693385 | 2008-07-29 21:38:00 | Friend changed his graphics card - 7800GT to 8800GTS (G92). He notes: "Got around to testing FSX with the new GPU. Oh dear, what can I say but - it runs EXACTLY the same - slow! At NZAA (Auck Intl) where there's a fair bit of detail, on the main runway 5R looking back at the terminal, it ran at 13 fps! Exactly the same as the 7800. :-( I ran the HardwareOC Far Cry Benchmark (which runs pretty high anyway - seventies), but was almost exactly the same (maybe 2 frames faster). Same with GTA San Andreas, and a small improvement in HL2. The only place it made any diff was in the 3DMark2005 results (screen fps looked the same), but score was almost double. I don't believe 3DMark results really reflect real game results though. It seems that FSX is the worst case scenario for any hardware in the world. Stick a new GPU or CPU in your PC and no difference! I think a Super Computer with arrays of CPUs and GPUs would still crawl! :-D The only good thing that came out of me stuffing with FSX, was in trying to squeeze a few more fps out, I found the most important factor to be the Water Effects. Nothing else mattered much in terms of graphic settings - I could max out all AA and and Filtering with no change. Of course there are heaps of other sim related settings that can be tweaked as well - but not really related to the GPU. Anyway, I can squeeze out 30 fps in the same spot with the Water looking a bit crap, but everything else on high. I set the max framerate down to an acceptable 25 fps so that the sim can do other stuff (like flying & drawing land textures). It's always a compromise with MS Flight Sim. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 693386 | 2008-07-29 21:43:00 | Did you show him JJJJJ's PCs specs? :D And did he cry? | wratterus (105) | ||
| 693387 | 2008-07-29 21:57:00 | He knows about jjjjjs hardware. I think his point was made: "It seems that FSX is the worst case scenario for any hardware in the world. Stick a new GPU or CPU in your PC and no difference! I think a Super Computer with arrays of CPUs and GPUs would still crawl! :-D" |
pctek (84) | ||
| 693388 | 2008-07-29 21:58:00 | :o | wratterus (105) | ||
| 693389 | 2008-07-29 22:47:00 | If you are serious about using FSX, you need the Acceleration Package. Running that on my medium spec system with default settings will get about 60fps at Auckland. Try Tokyo, fly along the freeway with the traffic running & that will test your system. It pulls mine down to about 30fps. |
Driftwood (5551) | ||
| 693390 | 2008-07-29 23:37:00 | Friend changed his graphics card - 7800GT to 8800GTS (G92). He notes: "Got around to testing FSX with the new GPU. Oh dear, what can I say but - it runs EXACTLY the same - slow! At NZAA (Auck Intl) where there's a fair bit of detail, on the main runway 5R looking back at the terminal, it ran at 13 fps! Exactly the same as the 7800. :-( I ran the HardwareOC Far Cry Benchmark (which runs pretty high anyway - seventies), but was almost exactly the same (maybe 2 frames faster). Same with GTA San Andreas, and a small improvement in HL2. The only place it made any diff was in the 3DMark2005 results (screen fps looked the same), but score was almost double. I don't believe 3DMark results really reflect real game results though. It seems that FSX is the worst case scenario for any hardware in the world. Stick a new GPU or CPU in your PC and no difference! I think a Super Computer with arrays of CPUs and GPUs would still crawl! :-D The only good thing that came out of me stuffing with FSX, was in trying to squeeze a few more fps out, I found the most important factor to be the Water Effects. Nothing else mattered much in terms of graphic settings - I could max out all AA and and Filtering with no change. Of course there are heaps of other sim related settings that can be tweaked as well - but not really related to the GPU. Anyway, I can squeeze out 30 fps in the same spot with the Water looking a bit crap, but everything else on high. I set the max framerate down to an acceptable 25 fps so that the sim can do other stuff (like flying & drawing land textures). It's always a compromise with MS Flight Sim. Something wrong with your friends computer. FSX runs beautifully on my new computer. I let FSX adjust the settings automaticlly for my specs. Frames locked at 20. What CPU dose your friend have. Is it multi core. If so he needs to buy the FSX Acceleration Expansion Pack. Cost $50. This allows FSX to use multi core cpus as in the original version it didn't support multi core cpus. :) |
Trev (427) | ||
| 693391 | 2008-07-29 23:46:00 | Wow, they charge you to use multi core? | SolMiester (139) | ||
| 693392 | 2008-07-30 00:04:00 | Driftwood: Everythiing in the acceleration pack is included in SP2. The acc. pack was just to make more money for Bill. PCTech: It's a well known fact that the gpu on it's own will do nothing for FSX. It's CPU intensive. MS seem to design all the FS releases to last four or five years so they design for what they think will be available in the future..I have no problems whatsoever with FSX With regards to Auckland. The problem there is the Real NZ addon scenery.It's got nothing to do with fsx. I only get about 15/16 fps there. I do almost all my flying in OZ with the ORBX addon scenery.. This is designed by experts and is thoroughly beta tested before release.I have no problems of any sort We often have discussions on whether scenery should be designed for the masses or for the top of line computers. It's got to be for the top line,or developers will stand still To anyone thinking of running FSX. To run properly you need the best quad core cpu. Anything less will be disapointing. two gigs of ram will do. And an 8800 GPU is enough... And lock your fps to no more than 25. Anything more will do nothing except put more strain on your cpu. And don't try and get away with reduced quality settings. You'll be missing to much. Properly set up on a good computer it's an amazing program. |
JJJJJ (528) | ||
| 693393 | 2008-07-30 00:07:00 | Something wrong with your friends computer. FSX runs beautifully on my new computer. I let FSX adjust the settings automaticlly for my specs. Frames locked at 20. What CPU dose your friend have. Is it multi core. If so he needs to buy the FSX Acceleration Expansion Pack. Cost $50. This allows FSX to use multi core cpus as in the original version it didn't support multi core cpus. :) Trev, everything in the acceleration pack , except a few aircraft, is included in SP2. And it's free. |
JJJJJ (528) | ||
| 693394 | 2008-07-30 01:21:00 | I bought the acceleration pack. Didn't install SP2. Acceleration pack has 3 new aircraft 30+ missions. It is about 2.24gb in size. :) |
Trev (427) | ||
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