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| Thread ID: 67280 | 2006-03-23 06:23:00 | Is the haka becoming overexposed? | netchicken (4843) | PC World Chat |
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| 440128 | 2006-03-23 06:23:00 | On the news the Aussies are whining about too much haka on TV at the games . They may have a point, I think its got to the stage where every NZ team overseas has to do it . Seems that its become some sort of "national dance" to be performed by every team that wins anything . Talk about over exposed and over hyped . Originally the All Blacks were only going to have it on important ocasions (defined by an absence of playing England) now they do one at every match . Its a great chant, but its so over used its losing any emotional feeling or impact on viewers . Personally I also find it a little silly when all these whities are pounding it out as well . Especially when I suspect thats the only words, and the only Maori cultural item they know . |
netchicken (4843) | ||
| 440129 | 2006-03-23 06:38:00 | [brings out the marshmallows] Oh now! They are just jealous cos all they have is 'Waltzing Matilda' :p [/marshmallows] |
bob_doe_nz (92) | ||
| 440130 | 2006-03-23 06:49:00 | [brings out the marshmallows] Oh now! They are just jealous cos all they have is 'Waltzing Matilda' pressf1.pcworld.co.nz [/marshmallows] They also have "Aussie Aussie Aussie oy oy oy" It does appear to be an overused ceremony in my opinion. Quite a few people living in NZ perform a HAKA at some stage without knowing what it means. There are several types of HAKA and they are not all warlike or challenges. I guess they have their time and place. |
Sweep (90) | ||
| 440131 | 2006-03-23 08:00:00 | Are they only doing it when they win something? That's kinda like rubbing it in their faces, not very sportsmanship like. I thought they were supposed to do it before the event to intimidate the other players/contestants. And I agree it should only be used on the rugby field. | E|im (87) | ||
| 440132 | 2006-03-23 08:41:00 | I don't think anyone would be impressed if a bunch of old men started doing the haka. It is the perfect challenge to start off any contact sport, but if they use it for everything, it loses it's significance. | Greven (91) | ||
| 440133 | 2006-03-23 08:44:00 | LMAO .. I was wondering when this would hit the forum.. was inevitable I suppose. Anyway, as for the OZ's, they always whining about something. I notice they aren't whining about the one-sided commentary (when the kiwis aren't commentating that is). I also notice how sportsmanlike the OZ's are when someone else wins the gold, very minimal applause (unless of course an OZ wins one, then there is a huge rapturous applause). Regarding the haka, I agree with Pita Sharples (member of the Maori Party and distinguished kapa haka kaiako (teacher))... the haka is for everyone, and can be used by them whenever they please. Incidentally, anyone know the story behind the Ka Mate haka???? According to legend, it is the haka that Te Rauparaha (great chief of Ngati Toa-rangatira) performed after escaping certain death at the hands of his enemies... in other words it basically says "I faced death but survived against all odds" Personally I also find it a little silly when all these whities are pounding it out as well. Especially when I suspect thats the only words, and the only Maori cultural item they know.Meaning?? Just coz they look white, don't mean they are. Let the sports teams use it as they see fit :) |
Myth (110) | ||
| 440134 | 2006-03-23 08:59:00 | Its annoyed me for ages. Translate it and it doesn't even make sense for its current use. Every man and his dog seems to do it for every occasion there is. Regardless of being Maori or not. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 440135 | 2006-03-23 09:02:00 | As I understand it, most of the hakas being performed at the Commonwealth Games aren't being done by our official team members (except pershaps for the 1st gold medal?), but rather by exuberant young NZ spectators. As these are spontaneous displays of delight & approval, I doubt that they can be regulated without somebody official getting really toffee-nosed. And that would bring its own problems. Personally, I'm surprised at how many young NZers nowadays know the words & actions of a haka which was performed (not particularly well) only before test matches (rare when I was a kid) by a bunch of predominantly white All Blacks. That in itself is quite impressive, but I would like to see some variety. Ka mate...is only one haka, after all. I don't agree that the All Blacks have a monopoly on it, but maybe our young males could also learn some others - to avoid being too predictable. |
Laura (43) | ||
| 440136 | 2006-03-23 09:14:00 | Ka mate...is only one haka, after all. I don't agree that the All Blacks have a monopoly on it, but maybe our young males could also learn some others - to avoid being too predictable.Well.. the All Blacks did try another haka (Kapa o pango) but the Brits whinged about that one saying they found it offensive. Guess ya can't win |
Myth (110) | ||
| 440137 | 2006-03-23 09:44:00 | On the news the Aussies are whining about too much haka on TV at the games . They may have a point, I think its got to the stage where every NZ team overseas has to do it . Seems that its become some sort of "national dance" to be performed by every team that wins anything . Talk about over exposed and over hyped . Originally the All Blacks were only going to have it on important ocasions (defined by an absence of playing England) now they do one at every match . Its a great chant, but its so over used its losing any emotional feeling or impact on viewers . Personally I also find it a little silly when all these whities are pounding it out as well . Especially when I suspect thats the only words, and the only Maori cultural item they know . Fully agree with every word . Also you might add the fancy dance they do whenever a VIP visits NZ . If it was me I'd kick their branch out of the way and ignore them . |
JJJJJ (528) | ||
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