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Thread ID: 142920	2016-10-09 01:37:00	Life After Life	Roscoe (6288)	PC World Chat

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1427152	2016-10-11 00:55:00	So sorry for you Paul. My Mum died in 2004 with that and she took a long time to die. (Note I didn't say of that) It took place over about 4 years and the last 2 years she was just a body lying in a chair with her mouth hanging slack in a private 24hr care hospital with everything done for her. She didn't know me after the first 12 months and stopped trying to speak shortly afterwards. It is a living hell!! Keep your sense of humour and don't let it upset you to much. Keep in your mind that Mum doesn't know to much about it and you are carrying the burden for her. I wish you well Ken	kenj (9738)
1427153	2016-10-11 02:00:00	I was holding Mum's hand when she died, far from a fun experience but I'm glad I was there. I've lost a couple of people close to me over the years so I think I understand the need to feel like there's something more but I don't share it and have yet to see anything to convince me any of it is more than wishful thinking. People live on in our memories and in their children and that's enough for me. I remember at a funeral a friend of the family seeing a curtain move and very sincerely assuring the family the deceased's spirit was there. It's a nice thought but I'm inclined to go with air currents on that one myself. That's how I see these things, hopeful people reading "spiritual" meanings into events that the rest of us just see as nothing out of the ordinary and usually totally explainable.	dugimodo (138)
1427154	2016-10-11 02:34:00	I started to tell of my experiences with my husband. Then rethought - these are your own unique experiences and sadness. Look after yourself, accept all offers of help and assistance that you get that are appropriate, and for goodness sake ask for help and make sure you get it. Blokes are notorious for not asking for emotional help (and the physical too, I think). There can be harm done by having the traditional Kiwi (or British or whatever you are) 'stiff-upper lip'.	R.M. (561)
1427155	2016-10-11 06:44:00	Life is hard and then you die. Passing strangers in a godless universe.	zqwerty (97)
1427156	2016-10-11 09:36:00	Many people hope to go out of existence when they die, so they invent that theory. But the scientific evidence only says that a person who dies ceases to make a logical contribution to our world. There's no evidence to say that the person ceases to exist in a logical sense. The person could continue existence in some other world, and we should assume continued existence until proof to the contrary. Einstein said that the reality of something was to be determined by the thing itself, not by onlookers. When we see somebody lying dead, we should say: "He looks to have gone out of existence, but what does he think?" (Defining a person in logical terms is a modern way of doing the definition. The intrinsic reality of the 4 or so subatomic particles that make up a human body is doubtful, so it is not very satisfactory to define a person in mechanical terms.)	BBCmicro (15761)
1427157	2016-10-11 13:32:00	If you're off the IRD books, that's dead enough.	R2x1 (4628)
1427158	2016-10-11 16:58:00	Life is hard and then you die. Passing strangers in a godless universe. Not sure where that takes us, a platitudinous perhaps?	Cicero (40)
1427159	2016-10-11 17:00:00	If you're off the IRD books, that's dead enough. We know we are dead but is that the answer to the question?	Cicero (40)
1427160	2016-10-11 19:19:00	Many people hope to go out of existence when they die, so they invent that theory. But the scientific evidence only says that a person who dies ceases to make a logical contribution to our world. There's no evidence to say that the person ceases to exist in a logical sense. The person could continue existence in some other world, and we should assume continued existence until proof to the contrary. Einstein said that the reality of something was to be determined by the thing itself, not by onlookers. When we see somebody lying dead, we should say: "He looks to have gone out of existence, but what does he think?" (Defining a person in logical terms is a modern way of doing the definition. The intrinsic reality of the 4 or so subatomic particles that make up a human body is doubtful, so it is not very satisfactory to define a person in mechanical terms.) Uh yeah... or the exact opposite. People hope to carry on after death so they invent that fantasy. Scientific evidence suggests thought and self awareness are just the result of biological processes which halt on death so we should assume they halt as well until we find proof to the contrary. Einstein was smarter than us but I don't think he had any Idea what happened after death either. How we are defined has nothing to do with satisfaction. We are born, we live, we die, anything outside of that experience is intrinsically unknowable but at least the Idea we cease to exist has some grounding in science, the alternative is all conjecture and hope. Personally I do hope we continue in some form, but I don't actually expect to find out that's true.	dugimodo (138)
1427161	2016-10-11 19:55:00	Uh yeah... or the exact opposite. People hope to carry on after death so they invent that fantasy. Scientific evidence suggests thought and self awareness are just the result of biological processes which halt on death so we should assume they halt as well until we find proof to the contrary. Einstein was smarter than us but I don't think he had any Idea what happened after death either. How we are defined has nothing to do with satisfaction. We are born, we live, we die, anything outside of that experience is intrinsically unknowable but at least the Idea we cease to exist has some grounding in science, the alternative is all conjecture and hope. Personally I do hope we continue in some form, but I don't actually expect to find out that's true. What you said in so many words, I said in "heifer dust", which upset a couple here :)	Zippity (58)
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