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442639 2006-04-05 21:04:00 Kiss (but not the current farce), Queen, early Iron Maiden, nothing since the 80's. Pretty much anything except (c)rap

:2cents:
Peterj116 (6762)
442640 2006-04-06 04:05:00 No Maiden since the 80's?

Shame shame.

Granted they went downhill and released a string of crap albums during the 90's, but since regrouping with Bruce Bruce they have been releasing some quality albums, While its not as frantic as earlier efforts Brave New World is a supremely crafted metal master piece created by the elder statesmen of metal who seem to have come to grips with their position in the grand scheme of all things metal.

Dance of Death on the other hand has a few tracks that could be perhaps termed weak, but a number of them are killer, and Pashendayle is of epic proportions, worthy of any track from their heyday,including Rime of the ancient mariner.

In a foreign field he lay
lonely soldier unknown grave
on his dying words he prays
tell the world of Paschendale

Relive all that he's been through
last communion of his soul
rust your bullets with his tears
let me tell you 'bout his years

Laying low in a blood filled trench
killing time 'til my very own death
on my face I can feel the falling rain
never see my friends again
in the smoke, in the mud and lead
smell of fear and feeling of dread
soon be time to go over the wall
rapid fire and the end of us all

Whistles, shouts and more gun fire
lifeless bodies hang on barbed wire
battlefield nothing but a bloody tomb
be reunited with my dead friends soon
many soldiers eighteen years
drown in mud, no more tears
surely a war no one can win
killing time about to begin

Home, far away. From the war, a chance to live again
Home, far away. But the war, no chance to live again

The bodies of ours and our foes
the sea of death it overflows
in no man's land God only knows
into jaws of death we go...

Crucified as if on a cross
allied troops, they mourn their loss
German war propaganda machine
such before has never been seen
swear I heard the angels cry
pray to God no more may die
so that people know the truth
tell the tale of Paschendale

Cruelty has a human heart
everyman does play his part
terror of the men we kill
the human heart is hungry still

I stand my ground for the very last time
gun is ready as I stand in line
nervous wait for the whistle to blow
rush of blood and over we go...

Blood is falling like the rain
its crimson cloak unveils again
the sound of guns can't hide their shame
and so we die in Paschendale

Dodging shrapnel and barbed wire
running straight at cannon fire
running blind as I hold my breath
say a prayer symphony of death
as we charge the enemy lines
a burst of fire and we go down
I choke a cry but no one hears
feel the blood go down my throat

Home, far away. From the war, a chance to live again
Home, far away. But the war, no chance to live again
Home, far away. From the war, a chance to live again
Home, far away. But the war, no chance to live again

See my spirit on the wind
across the lines beyond the hill
friend and foe will meet again
those who died at Paschendale
Metla (12)
442641 2006-04-06 04:47:00 Massive Attack
Garbage (Mostly the older stuff)
Nine Inch Nails (usually the mellow side.. but the loud stuff too)
David Bowie (Mostly the new stuff)
A Perfect Circle
Leonard Cohen
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds

-Qyiet
qyiet (6730)
442642 2006-04-06 05:11:00 The National Station!!!

Just listened to the head of ICANN Internet organization Vint Cerf.
He was talking about how TCPIP works.
Who cares about pop songs when you have this?

Nothing nicer than a sunny saturday morning cycling over the port hills listening to Kim Hill talking to interesting people.

Does she strangle 'em as she is talking to them? Gawd she's one AGRO woman
Baldy (26)
442643 2006-04-06 10:01:00 No Maiden since the 80's?

Shame shame.

No, I went right off them with the Powerslave album.
What killed it for me was 20 minutes or whatever of Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner.
Absolute snoozefest. Killers was their best.

Maiden LPs do very well on TradeMe, my bank account has discovered.

:thumbs:
Peterj116 (6762)
442644 2006-04-06 10:22:00 whoa.

Powerslave is the single best album ever made.

By anyone.

Ever.

Though if you dislike it as you say then you will hate the 2 albums I mentioned above even more so.
Metla (12)
442645 2006-04-06 11:45:00 I've no comments on the musicality mentioned in today's posts (OK, I admit it. Only David Bowie, Leonard Cohen & Queen are even recognisable by me), but who's messing with one of my favourite poem/sagas?

The Rime (not Rhyme) of the Ancient Mariner is famous, wonderful, fascinating & historic.

It's also one of the few poems my generation learned in high school English that we not only remembered but even read again for interest.

It's basically about a bloke who shoots an albatross - and we know that brings bad luck, don't we?
It's a saga - packed full of lines which still get quoted today by people who've not a clue where they came from, just as bits of Shakespeare are.
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So the original will last longer than any imitations, but who pinched the title & what did they do with it?

My query's on behalf of a feller called Samuel Taylor Coleridge (1772-1834)
He'd have got on fine with some recent rock groups, as he had a reputation himself for substance abuse.
A famous one reputed to be written under the influence began :-
"In Xanadu did Kubla Khan
A stately pleasure dome decree..."
and the rest of it goes further in weird imaginings than the average rock group's lyrics manage.

So Samuel & I wanna know who's trading on his poem title & why? And specially how their lyrics stand up in comparison?
Laura (43)
442646 2006-04-06 12:01:00 They turned it into a song about raping virgens and worshipping satan.

Anyhow, Its an audio format, source it, listen to it a few dozen times from multiple angles on a good set of speakers and then judge it, or not. Muhahahahaha. Words can't convey Iron Maiden at their peak. I think you will find that by taking the story into the audio format they do no disrespect to the work.

Or the entire idea may disgust you either way, Its all good.

Maiden base many of their works on events in history, historical works, and famous litriture.Maiden are no average rock group in any sense of the words, Not rock, Not Average. Lyrics only make up a small portion of the song, the depth is in the music. Something that goes over the head of people who have never ventured past what ever is on the radio, Though classical music lovers "get it".
Metla (12)
442647 2006-04-06 12:11:00 Anyhow, here are the lyrics, But like I said, the lyrics to a song are only a tiny portion of the work, The song structure, musical and vocal performance of this song are where the weight is . . . . Though I'm pretty sure you won't like their "sound" . Strange, I can hear every note of this 15 minute song just by reading through the lyrics . . . .




Hear the rime of the ancient mariner
See his eye as he stops one of three
Mesmerises one of the wedding guests
Stay here and listen to the nightmares of the sea .

And the music plays on, as the bride passes by
Caught by his spell and the mariner tells his tale .

Driven south to the land of the snow and ice
To a place where nobody’s been
Through the snow fog flies on the albatross
Hailed in god’s name, hoping good luck it brings .

And the ship sails on, back to the north
Through the fog and ice and the albatross follows on .

The mariner kills the bird of good omen
His shipmates cry against what he’s done
But when the fog clears, they justify him
And make themselves a part of the crime .

Sailing on and on and north across the sea
Sailing on and on and north ’til all is calm .

The albatross begins with it’s vengeance
A terrible curse a thirst has begun
His shipmates blame bad luck on the mariner
About his neck, the dead bird is hung .

And the curse goes on and on at sea
And the curse goes on and on for them and me .

’day after day, day after day,
We stuck nor breath nor motion
As idle as a painted ship upon a painted ocean
Water, water everywhere and
All the boards did shrink
Water, water everywhere nor any drop to drink .

There calls the mariner
There comes a ship over the line
But how can she sail with no wind in her sails and no tide .

See . . . onward she comes
Onward she nears out of the sun
See, she has no crew
She has no life, wait but here’s two .

Death and she life in death,
They throw their dice for the crew
She wins the mariner and he belongs to her now .
Then . . . crew one by one
They drop down dead, two hundred men
She . . . she, life in death .
She lets him live, her chosen one .

’one after one by the star dogged moon,
Too quick for groan or sigh
Each turned his facce with a ghastly pang
And cursed me with his eye
Four times fifty living men
(and I heard nor sigh nor groan)
With heavy thump, a lifeless lump,
They dropped down one by one .

The curse it lives on in their eyes
The mariner wished he’d die
Along with the sea creatures
But they lived on, so did he .

And by the light of the moon
He prays for their beauty not doom
With heart he blesses them
God’s creatures all of them too .

Then the spell starts to break
The albatross falls from his neck
Sinks down like lead into the sea
Then down in falls comes the rain .

Hear the groans of the long dead seamen
See them stir and they start to rise
Bodies lifted by good spirits
None of them speak and they’re lifelesss in their eyes

And revenge is still sought, penance starts again
Cast into a trance and the nightmare carries on .

Now the curse is finally lifted
And the mariner sights his home
Spirits go fromhe long dead bodies
Form their own light and the mariner’s left alone .

And then a boat came sailing towards him
It was a joy he could not believe
The pilot’s boat, his son and the hermit,
Penance of life will fall onto him .

And the ship sinks like lead into the sea
And the hermit shrieves the mariner of his sins .

The mariner’s bound to tell of his story
To tell this tale wherever he goes
To teach god’s word by his own example
That we must love all things thaat God made .

And the wedding guest’s a sad and wiser man
And the tale goes on and on and on .
Metla (12)
442648 2006-04-06 13:24:00 Oh good - at least they stuck with the story.
(I had visions of gawdknowswhat)

Yep, agree I need to hear the music, knowing that many of the songs I remember fondly look pretty wet on lyrics alone.

Those lyrics look pretty good in comparison with stuff I danced my backside off to.

Looks as though I need to start by digging up the speakers I stored away when cleaning up after my flood (another story) and then listening to this lot.

Ta, metla.

P.S. A second reading of the lyrics shows they did very well indeed with the overall story (and pinched some good quotes) so I hope the music lives up to it,
Laura (43)
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