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| Thread ID: 67773 | 2006-04-05 08:41:00 | xtra to block smtp traffic | whichwayisup (10136) | PC World Chat |
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| 444162 | 2006-04-05 08:41:00 | I see on a number of tech websites that xtra will start to block outgoing mail on port 25 as of april 26th. They claim that this is an attempt to stop spam and virus activity, which I can understand, but think they are basically following suite with Clear.net.nz I think that dictorial actions such as restricting public access in any measure, such as restricting whom you can send mail from, and who you can collect mail from (clear has pop3 blocking where you can only pickup mail from clear servers) should not be tolerated. Interested to hear any viewpoints... |
whichwayisup (10136) | ||
| 444163 | 2006-04-05 08:48:00 | It will be interesting to see if I can still send mail via Yahoo! & other smtp servers. | stu161204 (123) | ||
| 444164 | 2006-04-05 08:50:00 | They obviously aren't going to completely block it because then all their customers wouldn't be able to send emails. They will probably block all smtp traffic not going to Xtra's mail servers. I wonder if they will allow smtp.gmail.com? Is this a telecom policy, or a Xtra policy? It will really suck if it is blocked by telecom regardless of what other ISPs want. |
Greven (91) | ||
| 444165 | 2006-04-05 08:51:00 | If you are using outlook and have a setting other than smtp.xtra.co.nz then you will have to contact xtra and tell them that you want to be excluded from their port blocking.. good luck, you may get it for a month or two, but you will soon be paying for the luxury of using the internet as you see fit. If you are using Webmail then you will have no problems.. BTW, I love the quote "Xtra customers will not have to do anything to benifit from these changes" ... come on!!! |
whichwayisup (10136) | ||
| 444166 | 2006-04-05 08:58:00 | BTW, I love the quote "Xtra customers will not have to do anything to benifit from these changes" ... come on!!! We always knew that marketing people were full of it. They probably got the following message from the techs: "Xtra customers will not benifit from these changes" |
Greven (91) | ||
| 444167 | 2006-04-05 09:00:00 | Nope, the techs would have speld it corect liek... benefits.... :) | whichwayisup (10136) | ||
| 444168 | 2006-04-05 09:04:00 | If you are using outlook and have a setting other than smtp.xtra.co.nz then you will have to contact xtra and tell them that you want to be excluded from their port blocking.. good luck, you may get it for a month or two, but you will soon be paying for the luxury of using the internet as you see fit. To my understanding, I don’t think you need to do this... |
stu161204 (123) | ||
| 444169 | 2006-04-05 09:05:00 | TIs this a telecom policy, or a Xtra policy? It will really suck if it is blocked by telecom regardless of what other ISPs want. An Xtra policy |
stu161204 (123) | ||
| 444170 | 2006-04-05 09:20:00 | To my understanding, I don’t think you need to do this . . . They say that they will contact customers running thier own mail servers, but i doubt you will be contacted if you are just using a third party mail service such as your hosting company . . . see . stuff . co . nz/stuff/0,2106,3623905a11275,00 . html" target="_blank">www . stuff . co . nz Xtra will contact the "few thousand" customers who run their own mail servers using Port 25 to ask if they want to opt out of the ban, which they can do at no cost . The opt-out process will be online but Xtra will assess each application to make sure the customers are running up-to-date antivirus and firewall software, and are legitimate businesses instead of spammers . Internet newsgroups were buzzing with rumours about the details of Xtra's plan, many from boffins who run their own mail servers . Several posters threatened to move to another provider . |
whichwayisup (10136) | ||
| 444171 | 2006-04-05 09:32:00 | I see on a number of tech websites that xtra will start to block outgoing mail on port 25 as of april 26th. They claim that this is an attempt to stop spam and virus activity, which I can understand, but think they are basically following suite with Clear.net.nz I think that dictorial actions such as restricting public access in any measure, such as restricting whom you can send mail from, and who you can collect mail from (clear has pop3 blocking where you can only pickup mail from clear servers) should not be tolerated. Interested to hear any viewpoints...You don't really seem to have an understanding of the issue. Clear do not block POP3 access leaving their network for other providers. I'm pretty sure Clear don't block outbound port 25 traffic either. They prevent you from accessing their POP3 server via other ISP connections, as do XTRA. That however is a completely different issue. Blocking port 25 traffic outbound on their network IS a good measure. Xtra customers with virus infected machines are responsible for a large proportion of the virus and spam messages we receive as an ISP. A number of the big ISP's do it already (including AOL - they don't get much bigger than that). The company I work for do it on our network, but only for our customers on dynamic IP space. It doesn't stop people from running their own mail server. They can still receive inbound port 25 connections. As far as delivering mail outbound, they just set Xtra's servers as their SMTP host - simple as. Alternatvely they can use secure SMTP to any external relay host they like (that supports it). |
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