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| Thread ID: 68100 | 2006-04-17 06:29:00 | Religion in politics | rob_on_guitar (4196) | PC World Chat |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 446990 | 2006-04-23 02:10:00 | the truth being what? that is the crux of the matter... Out of the mouths babes..... :) Crux, being Latin for cross, |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 446991 | 2006-04-23 05:23:00 | Yes I can't wait to hear what the truth is. Although the Iraqi's seem to be onto it.Oh and I think the inquisition had a point ot two. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 446992 | 2006-04-23 09:04:00 | Crux, being Latin for cross, Yes, but it does not literally mean a cross in this usage. Words and sayings must be evaluated in the context of the moment. Crux: The basic, central, or critical point or feature: the crux of the matter; the crux of an argument. There are no religious connotations to the use of crux in this instance. Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 446993 | 2006-04-23 09:24:00 | Yes, but it does not literally mean a cross in this usage. Words and sayings must be evaluated in the context of the moment. Crux: The basic, central, or critical point or feature: the crux of the matter; the crux of an argument. There are no religious connotations to the use of crux in this instance. Cheers Billy 8-{) No doubt about it,crux may have in derivation in cross,but in common usage it means the most important point. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 446994 | 2006-04-23 09:45:00 | OMG, I know that. I give up if neither of you can see the aptness or inaptness, or the unintended pun of that statement. :) | Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 446995 | 2006-04-23 10:11:00 | OMG, I know that. I give up if neither of you can see the aptness or inaptness, or the unintended pun of that statement. :) I was just backing B up,he is a sensitive lad. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 446996 | 2006-04-23 10:22:00 | I was just backing B up,he is a sensitive lad. That's all right then. :thumbs: Methinks Billy doesn't think cryptically. |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 446997 | 2006-04-23 10:37:00 | OMG, I know that. I give up if neither of you can see the aptness or inaptness, or the unintended pun of that statement. :) Oh, I saw it alright Terry.:D I saw it in all its glory and it tickled my sense of ridiculous. I simply hung an anchor off it to keep it in perspective for those of greater faith. While historically it was largely a means of controlling the simple man via his fears of hellfire and damnation, religion is solidly founded on Mans' utter dread that he might be no more than a totally inconsequential blot on the cosmos, and when he dies, that is the end of it. There are many who need reassurance that there is some higher reason for their being, and can't accept that their time on earth or consciousness will come to a total end when they die. Their beliefs sustain them, and that is a good thing, but faith (or fear) also makes them one-eyed, accepting of dogma, and unable to debate the validity of their beliefs beyond quotations from the scriptures (as written by man). The biggest difference between believers and non-believers is that non-believers don't really mind what believers think, and don't take it personally or feel threatened by those beliefs. Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 446998 | 2006-04-23 10:52:00 | As a none believer,I wonder why believers believe. All the believers I know leave a bit to be desired morals department. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 446999 | 2006-04-23 13:30:00 | Oh, I saw it alright Terry . :D I saw it in all its glory and it tickled my sense of ridiculous . I simply hung an anchor off it to keep it in perspective for those of greater faith . While historically it was largely a means of controlling the simple man via his fears of hellfire and damnation, religion is solidly founded on Mans' utter dread that he might be no more than a totally inconsequential blot on the cosmos, and when he dies, that is the end of it . There are many who need reassurance that there is some higher reason for their being, and can't accept that their time on earth or consciousness will come to a total end when they die . Their beliefs sustain them, and that is a good thing, but faith (or fear) also makes them one-eyed, accepting of dogma, and unable to debate the validity of their beliefs beyond quotations from the scriptures (as written by man) . The biggest difference between believers and non-believers is that non-believers don't really mind what believers think, and don't take it personally or feel threatened by those beliefs . Cheers Billy 8-{) very well said! the only reason i dont appreciate people preaching at me is that they generally cant handle being questioned, not because they hold a different belief than my own . i think beleif is a good thing untill it negatively effects other people, eg islamic matrys (spelt right?), or those christians who tried to ban the harry potter movies: believers trying to stop other's harmless beleifs (really, if it's that "evil" or offensive, DONT WATCH/READ IT lol) also, i found the 'crux' thing very funny after someone pointed it out, it never occurred to me the pun seated there :lol: and looking back at the discussion sofar, a rebuttal i missed: "where did the universe start from if god didnt make it?" Well what made/started god then? |
motorbyclist (188) | ||
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