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| Thread ID: 68123 | 2006-04-18 09:04:00 | Conspiracy theory anyone | Barnabas (4562) | PC World Chat |
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| 447312 | 2006-04-20 08:39:00 | I agree with Winston that reputed 'conspiracy theories' are almost impossible to conceal given the number of individuals involved. However, my gut feel is that there are elements of the tragedy that need to be examined closer. For example, as motorbyclist (the other Andrew) mentioned, the collapse of WTC building number 7 is 100% questionable. The guy who took out a 99 year lease on the WTC before the tragedy, Larry Silverstein, said that WTC 7 was 'pulled' - an industry term for demolished / imploded. That is a fact and his statement is supported by the video evidence. Soooooooo - without sounding too conspiratorial, and keeping it simple, this was an insurance job. He received $2.2b in compensation. So how to pull off such an elaborate event? If individuals didn't realise their actions were part of a larger plan then a few people could contrive such a catastrophe and suddenly it isn't so implausible. Think of this as a combination insurance job / gold heist and you may just sit on the fence (like me). A |
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| 447313 | 2006-04-20 10:04:00 | ) furthermore, have you seen one? One? After a good 14 years dismantling buildings the answer would be I have seen more then I can count, I have also had the privildge of attacking huge burnt-out structures with gas tourches (Love it when the steel lets go and due to the stress you have no idea which way its going to ping, Yet you know its going to ping, and when it does its going to happen far faster then your sences can comprehend) and large machinery, meaning excavators equipped with shears/grabs . I could inform you on a lot about how buildings come down, the stress in the structre, the effects of heat, collapse, structle damage, How to read the lay of a building as it comes down, and how massivly different the real world actions are cmpared to the finest paperwork NZ's engineers can come up with . . . But I wont, after all, You have seen a video on Sept 11, and once your Dad worked in a factory,LMFAO . Dreamers . |
Metla (12) | ||
| 447314 | 2006-04-20 10:10:00 | [QUOTE=andrew93 said that WTC 7 was 'pulled' - an industry term for demolished / imploded. That is a fact and his statement is supported by the video evidence. [/QUOTE] You do realise holes need to be drilled into every structle junction of the building (steel and concrete) and packed with explosives in order to implode it?, The job takes weeks,sometimes months, Did every office worker simply fail to notice the demolition crew smashing down structurl walls, Weakening concrete beams with jack-hammers, Drilling holes, Packing them with explosives and then strapping the explosives in place? And then wiring them all to a control panel, and then bunking down to wait for a suitable event so they could press the go button... |
Metla (12) | ||
| 447315 | 2006-04-20 10:11:00 | Heh, finally found the spelling for Structural, Cant be arsed editing the prior posts. | Metla (12) | ||
| 447316 | 2006-04-20 10:38:00 | try this on for size www.popularmechanics.com i think it answers most of your questions, oh yeah, and prison planet is run by alex jones, and he is a class A nut job. half of his so called evidence is propogated from so called data that doesnt exist, like he asks where are the security camera footage from the pentagon attack. i dont have time to detail all of his claims. hes almost as bad as david icke, but meh. | Tux (606) | ||
| 447317 | 2006-04-20 10:45:00 | try this on for size www.popularmechanics.com i think it answers most of your questions.... It was cited by Terry earlier in the thread, and it is the first listing when you google for "9/11 conspiracy". So yeah, all the conspiracy theorists have seen it already. But the nature of a conspiracy is of course, is that everyone who disagrees either is part of the conspiracy, or is has been taken in by the conspiracy. I think I am wasting my time here... and so are most of you. |
vinref (6194) | ||
| 447318 | 2006-04-20 11:20:00 | One? After a good 14 years dismantling buildings.... well why didnt you say that in the first place? |
motorbyclist (188) | ||
| 447319 | 2006-04-20 11:38:00 | You do realise holes need to be drilled into every structle junction of the building (steel and concrete) and packed with explosives in order to implode it?, The job takes weeks,sometimes months, Did every office worker simply fail to notice the demolition crew smashing down structurl walls, Weakening concrete beams with jack-hammers, Drilling holes, Packing them with explosives and then strapping the explosives in place? A nd then wiring them all to a control panel, and then bunking down to wait for a suitable event so they could press the go button... Yes and thanks for your post. This is the point that some people are trying to make. The building was pulled and the person who owned it admitted it. A s you said it takes weeks to do this. So why then was it pulled late afternoon on September 11th? How did they manage to do it so quickly? This is the whole point as to why it should be looked into. Have you seen the footage of the WTC7 collapse? A nd did you see the interview with Larry Silverstein who said the building was pulled? Doesn't that raise a few questions in your mind? A nd in your experience of dealing with demolished buildings, have you ever seen a building made of steel and concrete collapse due to a fire? A |
andrew93 (249) | ||
| 447320 | 2006-04-20 11:52:00 | try this on for size www.popularmechanics.com i think it answers most of your questions... again it adds confusion... why all the conflicting stories? it also pays to note that was far from unbiased... look at their sources, most have "public affairs" after their name and one was even an fbi agent! this is far from independant. i'm interested in who owns poular science too.... i dont think anyone can prove what happened unless somebody who knows something says something, the conspiracy theorists say one load of info and the official guys say another! if an unbiased source looks (and then i'm sure ppl would still argue the outcome), we might get a more consistent story... any ideas on why there is so many inconsistentcies? (like, was anyone on a plane or something? :lol: ) PS why do i post so much and why is almost everyone soley one sided. ( i'm on the fence, but leaning more towards the "the govt lied, something hasnt been told to us" side) |
motorbyclist (188) | ||
| 447321 | 2006-04-20 11:52:00 | And in your experience of dealing with demolished buildings, have you ever seen a building made of steel and concrete collapse due to a fire? A Not quite, Though I have worked on a number of buildings that had stuctural damage due to fire and they come down far differently then an undamaged building, Of couse I have never worked on a building that had been ravanged by fire and had the **** smacked out of it like WTC7, The building was munted, One of the main supports was gone. |
Metla (12) | ||
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