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Thread ID: 68333	2006-04-24 23:34:00	ANZAC Day.........	beetle (243)	PC World Chat

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449193	2006-04-24 23:34:00	Least we forget.... Was wondering if any PF1 Crew went to a dawn parade, service this morning. I admit i didnt, and that its is very wet, miserable here, so those who ventured would be rather cold and wet id say. Was sad to see that a death occured during one service, parade. www.nzherald.co.nz What if anything does this day mean to you? Does it mean another holiday? A serious historic event? Family members involved in the past? ( i lost family members) Or no thoughts at all. This is not meant to cause problems or argument, but to see wheteher we as a forum, have many people who are involved and do go to these parades..... I have yet to go to a dawn parade ever, but i have been to other activities focused on ANZAC day..... Thanxs beetle :)	beetle (243)
449194	2006-04-25 00:09:00	Haven't been for years beet, used to go with the Old Fella who flew in the Pacific (WWII). Today sonny boy was marching with the army cadets fir the first time, so I hauled my arse out of bed at 5:15, with assistance from my wife and daughter, and off to the parade and service in Lower Hutt. Was quite poignant, mainly thinking about my Grandfathers, Great Uncles and cousins who fought in WWI, the ones who got banged up and those who missed the boat home from Turkey or France. With proud thanksgiving, a mother for her children, England mourns for her dead across the sea. Flesh of her flesh they were, spirit of her spirit, Fallen in the cause of the free. Solemn the drums thrill; Death august and royal Sings sorrow up into immortal spheres, There is music in the midst of desolation And a glory that shines upon our tears. They went with songs to the battle, they were young, Straight of limb, true of eye, steady and aglow. They were staunch to the end against odds uncounted; They fell with their faces to the foe. They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old: Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them. They mingle not with their laughing comrades again; They sit no more at familiar tables of home; They have no lot in our labour of the day-time; They sleep beyond England's foam. But where our desires are and our hopes profound, Felt as a well-spring that is hidden from sight, To the innermost heart of their own land they are known As the stars are known to the Night; As the stars that shall be bright when we are dust, Moving in marches upon the heavenly plain; As the stars that are starry in the time of our darkness, To the end, to the end, they remain.	Murray P (44)
449195	2006-04-25 00:19:00	Thanxs Murray. I lost Great Uncles and other family members, to snipers, and my grandfather came back with a tin leg, interesting since he rode horse's for the rest of his farming life....must have been difficult. ( i dont remember him) We have not had any family members since then interested or joined any form of army, navy, airforce etc. So even tho we think of this day, we are not closely connected to it any more. Where did you come up with that quote from MP? was it said, sung or whatever this morning? beetle :thumbs:	beetle (243)
449196	2006-04-25 00:35:00	It's a Poem by Laurence Binyon ( . firstworldwar . com/poetsandprose/binyon . htm" target="_blank">www . firstworldwar . com), For The Fallen . The second of the bold stanzas, They shall not grow old, etc, is the traditional verse spoken at ANZAC day and RSA services and no doubt many others to do with the old Empire . It can also be found inscribed on Cenotaphs . It is recited between soundings of the Last Post, which strangely has nothing to do with interweb forums, go figure :confused:	Murray P (44)
449197	2006-04-25 00:53:00	Found this...........cant remember where it originally came from. :illogical www.imagef1.net.nz beetle :illogical	beetle (243)
449198	2006-04-25 01:13:00	Some could say it's all too much song and dance about men who went voluntarily overseas with the intent to slaughter other people who made no threat to NZ's island nation. Along with the thought that far more NZ men died in subsequent wars than did at Gallipolli.	Greg (193)
449199	2006-04-25 01:20:00	Some could say it's all too much song and dance about men who went voluntarily overseas with the intent to slaughter other people who made no threat to NZ's island nation. Along with the thought that far more NZ men died in subsequent wars than did at Gallipolli. They did that because we were once a part of Britainnia and our loyalties still lied with her royal majesty	bob_doe_nz (92)
449200	2006-04-25 01:27:00	OK . . . . . I cant say that if given the chance i would willingly send any of my family members off now, for the sake of the country . . . . . I hate all aspects of war, violence when it involves real people . Death is a certainty, especially to the people walking the streets, for peace keeping . . . . . . its the people high up that get all the thanxs and esteem of not even seeing the front line aspects of the work i guess that gets me . . . . Theres some people i gladly put their name forward . . . LOL just cos they tick me off, but to ask someone to stand up and die for us . . . . no But with out these so called leaders, we may not have a war? obviousy live in peace means not much to a whole lot of people in the world . Thanxs for your input Greg, Loyalty and being led to death, of innocent people in a country not likely to be invaded the same, is a bit of a no go area isnt it? its happened we cant change it, no matter what we think now, the past is the past, we can either remember it with good will or resent it for what it was . . . . . . war, pain and suffering, something that most of us will never see or know, hopefully in our life times any way . beetle :confused:	beetle (243)
449201	2006-04-25 01:33:00	Don't do Dawn parades, but went to many services as a youngster with my family, when WWI vets were many in number . When a little older I marched and played in one of the Brass Bands that used to accompany the soldiers on their parade through the streets of Auckland . In later years I went to many ANZAC services with my father (Territorial & WWII veteran), and visited Gallipoli which was one of the most moving experience of my life . I defy any Kiwi to go there, walk among the graves and not shed a tear . Now we go as a family to our local RSA/Memorial Garden and have seen the number of vets slowly shrinking, but the attendance swelling over recent years . Today the weather was foul but the biggest crowd ever turned out . As ever, it was a moving experience . For being able to read this post in English, thank a Serviceman from a loving home and family near you who never returned, and the Servicemen who did return, their pain lasted many years longer than those who never came back and lie in graves overseas . For the few who are still with us, that pain continues . Billy	Billy T (70)
449202	2006-04-25 01:36:00	Some could say it's all too much song and dance about men who went voluntarily overseas with the intent to slaughter other people who made no threat to NZ's island nation . Along with the thought that far more NZ men died in subsequent wars than did at Gallipolli . It's hardly all about Gallipoli or even WWI Greg, that was merely the birth (so called) of the ANZAC spirit . And, it's hardly about glorifying slaughter, but about remembering people who fought and died for ideals of honour, country and King/Queen (which incidentally, many people no longer understand in the context of the times) but, most importantly ANZAC day was instituted so that returned soldiers could remember and honour their fallen conrades . So, forget your twaddle about statistics and and threats (which were real, ever heard of Samoa, ever heard of a nation(s) dependant on trade and people from Europe?), it's about the personal lives of people who died and those they left . Like it or not, wars have profoundly affected our nation and will continue to do so, it's best to remember that if nothing else .	Murray P (44)
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