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Thread ID: 68356 2006-04-25 12:35:00 Net Neutrality Under Fire! motorbyclist (188) PC World Chat
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449386 2006-04-27 06:19:00 now i'm sure there is a political issue here, but it is ALSO a commercial one. the isps WILL try to exterminate their competition. thats business. and while they're at it, other companies can get their competition squashed for a fee.

this creates monopolies, which are bad for consumers

it does effect us, as alot of the internet content is US based, and i dont really want to see my favorite sites go bust and dissapear. also, the internet is a great source of info for both sides of arguments. without neutrality we will be given a one sided view of american issues (eg war, terrorism) at the least

for the isp's pushing the bill to destroy neutrality, they can only win. the companies in support of a neutral net, where freedom of speech is not determined by the size of ones bank balance, will lose. micro soft in one of them. google is one of them, and google, i beleive is one of the best internet businesses out there.

i'm sure you all know about google's free software bundles etc etc. imagine how much money ISP's lose to google when their customers use www.google.co.nz as their home page. (lets face it, its simple, works brillantly, and doesnt take 3-5 minutes to load on 56k)

so yes, the stupid bill being put forward is of great advantage to politicians and certain companies alike.

not to us internet user

i dont want to hear only one side of the issues (including this one), nor do i want prices to soar for US internet stores because they have to pay to keep their speed up. it affects us all, which is why i created this thread :thumbs: 		motorbyclist (188)
449387 2006-04-27 21:25:00 Hi motorbyclist,
Many thanks for the links & info.
Trying to get some real rather than fudged info on this issue is next to impossible.
I'm so sick of money run politics and brainless talking heads ........... 		Sue (33)
449388 2006-04-28 05:04:00 All sounds like bad news to me, but I guess it's also inevitable. (I think your slant on the democrats is a bit off there SJ.) Anyway.

I heard a rumour that ISPs in nz were already giving preference to their broadband customers over people with dial-up. 		mark c (247)
449389 2006-04-28 10:07:00 Update (news.com.com)


also see this (news.com.com)

its an existing example of a telecommunications company blocking VoIP calls. they did this as so not to lose profits from their landline phone customers usage.

for those that dont know (which i hope isnt too many of you) VoIP = Voice over Internet Protocol (IP, like your IP address). this is a FREE way to make phone calls using your internet connection. 		motorbyclist (188)
449390 2006-04-29 06:09:00 All sounds like bad news to me, but I guess it's also inevitable. (I think your slant on the democrats is a bit off there SJ.) Anyway.

I heard a rumour that ISPs in nz were already giving preference to their broadband customers over people with dial-up.

Gotta admit I need to drop the bias......just hate someone telling me what's good for me no matter what party affiliation...ahem!

Anyway...........did you hear the tripe about AOL offering an updated price here in the US for Dial-up that ALMOST equals the cost of using DSL? Nose-rubbing-in is another way AOL makes me angry. It isn't enough that you get diminished performance on dial, but then they raise the cost to about 90% of that of DSL. Just a tail twist if you ask me......and a way to harvest some more bandwidth.

I have a funny feeling that the Internet/Powergrid idea is all washed up...it would be able to interconnect anyone with a lightbulb hanging from the ceiling of a mud hut to any computer anywhere else in the world without CAT5-e or a modem. I am not being snobbish here...just trying to show that there is no way that free enterprise can co-exist with the monsters of industry and technology.

In the US, we had monopolies for many years that controlled the telecommunications and it was the best ever; standardized services; low costs; good equipment; reliable repairs and pleasant operators and talent. Then somebody got the idea that if they knocked down the ivory towers and made the playing field level, then there would be some good ol' entrepreneurial competition and the service and quality would go up and the cost would go down.

They broke up the big tel-n-tel's and entered the mom-n-pop phone companies with two cans and a string...wham! The prices went thru the roof and the service fell to nasty low levels with snotty operators who resented their jobs and loss of retirement benefits, pensions and freebees. Free services were discontinued or just charged for at monumental fees...and this was supposed to be GOOD!

Now, as I see it: Google has rocked a mighty large boat...MSN, The Federal Communications Commission; Homeland Security; Verizon, BellSouth; AT&T; SBC/Yahoo...and others......and there's gonna be a new sheriff in town soon.
Elections and fist-swinging; security threats and distrust in the elected officials...all just designed to ruin the free ride so far. 		SurferJoe46 (51)
449391 2006-04-29 22:31:00 Interesting perspective of the telco break up SJ, never heard it reported like that before. In the heady days of the nineties here in NZ we were sold the idea that privatising would "increase competition, reduce costs and improve service" like it was a mantra. We could all go on till we were all blue in the face about what the result has been but for me the example of Telecon tells the story. mark c (247)
449392 2006-04-29 23:06:00 did you hear the tripe about AOL offering an updated price here in the US for Dial-up that ALMOST equals the cost of using DSL

the major player here 'telecom' offers dialup at $27.95 for 'unlimited' access......and their cheapest broadband is $29.95 lol......(that's for a data cap of a miserable 200mb) ... 		drcspy (146)
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