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Thread ID: 68452	2006-04-28 19:25:00	Another example of Jafa stupidity?	JJJJJ (528)	PC World Chat

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450434	2006-05-02 06:51:00	I'm with Mark C, If I could afford 80 grand for a place to park my wagon I would have to be rolling in cash, In which case I would sell up and move somewhere far more relaxing, and then use that 80 grand to buy someplace to park my arse, something like a house and carshed w/land combo....And maybe a boat upgrade... I was kinda thinking they may already have all that. They may need the park for business only or visiting or whatever. Obviously they have more dollars than sense.	rob_on_guitar (4196)
450435	2006-05-02 09:05:00	No. Billy meant that if you borrowed $78,000, it would cost you $18/day to service and repay the loan. It actually makes good business sense. That too Winston, but what I was actually referring to was a moderately conservative (safe) return on investing $78,000. The savings in carparking costs, the convenience, the security, and the tax-free capital gain make it an absolute no-brainer. As for: But the belief that it is of value to the NZ economy is cloud cuckooland. For example Southland has 3% of the population but produces 12% of the wealth. That is a cuckooland concept in its own right! Auckland is the largest market in NZ. Remove it and Southland might as well cease to exist. 12% of sod-all is still sod all. The rest of the country would fall on hard times for sure if the Auckland economy vanished. Don't forget our contribution via taxation and the rest of the various levies either. However, my main point is (and always has been) that we are all in this together and we are interdependent. Slagging off one area of your own country is divisive and not really the Kiwi way, we usually reserve that treatment for the Aussies. :D Please don't let this be a case of small towns, small minds! And did anybody notice that there are no Aucklanders in this thread slagging off other cities and towns in NZ. What does that tell you about our tolerance and Kiwi spirit? Interesting isn't it? Cheers Billy 8-{) Didn't Auckland just get ranked as the 5th most desirable city in the world to live?	Billy T (70)
450436	2006-05-02 09:15:00	Aucklanders are hardly in a position to slag off any other part of NZ, And having a differing view does not make someone have a small mind. Futher more, slagging off Auckland and Aucklanders is a national past time, so must BE the Kiwi way, Though I have found it more commen in the areas closest and furtherist away from Auckland, Some people on Hamilton seem to have a severe chip on their shoulder in relation to their big brother up north. Anyhow, if anyone feels offended because I slagged off their patch of concrete and pollution then so be it, Feel free to point out the realities of Wanganui, Lacking blinders I can see them as well as anyone.	Metla (12)
450437	2006-05-02 11:09:00	Heh - had any garden occupations lately? :rolleyes:	andrew93 (249)
450438	2006-05-03 00:40:00	As for: That is a cuckooland concept in its own right! Auckland is the largest market in NZ . Remove it and Southland might as well cease to exist . 12% of sod-all is still sod all . The rest of the country would fall on hard times for sure if the Auckland economy vanished . Don't forget our contribution via taxation and the rest of the various levies either . Please don't let this be a case of small towns, small minds! [/i][/COLOR] I agree Billy that we are too small a country to have serious parochial divisions . Rivalry over rugby, netball, oysters, etc is just joshing and good fun . However your above point emphasises the reality disconnect that Auckland people have . It's not your fault - you are told deliberate exaggerations and untruths by council leaders such as John Banks, and Parliamentarians . This is because Auckland forms a gerrymander . By this I mean that although Auckland holds a quarter of the population, nearly half of our politicians come from or are associated with the region . Thus Auckland equals voters and if you people say jump, Parliament does . In other words, the region has a disproportionate influence on favourable political decisions . How else can you explain the 6c/litre fuel tax for Auckland roads? I note that Wellington isn't getting a special tax to pay for Transmission Gully . Queenstown isn't getting a special tax to cover the $129 million cost of upgrading roads despite being a significant tourism earner .	Winston001 (3612)
450439	2006-05-03 02:30:00	That is a cuckooland concept in its own right! Auckland is the largest market in NZ . Remove it and Southland might as well cease to exist . 12% of sod-all is still sod all . The rest of the country would fall on hard times for sure if the Auckland economy vanished . Don't forget our contribution via taxation and the rest of the various levies either . Spurious (I love that word) concept Billy, remove a quarter of NZ's population from anywhere and the place will go to hell in a handbasket . As Winnie has pointed out, Auckland is actually a burdon in some, not insignificant, respects on the rest of NZ via targeted taxation, use of resources to prop up an inefficient infrastructure and sagging location goegraphically (because it just wasn't designed to contain all those people and too far from the raw materials), and the added costs of conveying goods and services to the rest of NZ for the sake of the 1/4 . Granted, Auckland provides size and economic heat to compete internationally, but they haven't exactly moved with the times in that they are losing out to Melbourne, Sydney and places further afield . What I want to know, is if we distributed half of Aucklnads population around the rest of NZ, would we be better or worse off, given that Auckland is now largely based on (diminishing) service industries?	Murray P (44)
450440	2006-05-03 02:32:00	Auckland is the largest market in NZ . Remove it and Southland might as well cease to exist . 12% of sod-all is still sod all . The rest of the country would fall on hard times for sure if the Auckland economy vanished . And did anybody notice that there are no Aucklanders in this thread slagging off other cities and towns in NZ . What does that tell you about our tolerance and Kiwi spirit? [/i][/COLOR] Auckland is the largest market for what exactly? All that junk we import from China? Well lets see, I'm ex-Auckland now but I'll start by slagging off, um, Ruatoria . Grotty place with no employment . Ok?	pctek (84)
450441	2006-05-03 02:57:00	Personally I don't want this to be an anti-Auckland discussion. I simply say - WAY TO GO MURRAY :thumbs: :thumbs:	Winston001 (3612)
450442	2006-05-03 03:18:00	Personally I don't want this to be an anti-Auckland discussion. I simply say - WAY TO GO MURRAY :thumbs: :thumbs: I also love the word disingenuous Winnie, would be handy to know what it means though :rolleyes:	Murray P (44)
450443	2006-05-03 03:23:00	I also love the word disingenuous Winnie, would be handy to know what it means though :rolleyes: Not straightforward or candid; giving a false appearance of frankness	Cicero (40)
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