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Thread ID: 68482	2006-04-30 21:11:00	I'm Disgusted	JJJJJ (528)	PC World Chat

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450922	2006-05-01 10:04:00	I come from a generation where married women did not work. She stayed home and looked after her family. I don't think Sue (or most on PF1) is from your generation. No doubt when you were Sue's age, older folk were "disgusted" with what you and your peers were up to.	Strommer (42)
450923	2006-05-01 10:56:00	You sound like one of those woman's lib. people. A woman's place is in the home. Careing (sic) for HER children. I come from a generation where married women did not work. She stayed home and looked after her family. Women's libber Yes and will be while guys with attitudes like yours are still around. I have four grandkids, two older than some members here (one is 20) and I divorced the chauvinistic p..... I was first married to as quickly as possible. The generation you grew up in has no baring at all on your ability or otherwise to relate to the opposite sex. I'm very happily married to a man who doesn't need to put women down to make himself feel macho. He doesn't need Viagra either. PS. Thanks Steve but I'm no longer young in age.	Sue (33)
450924	2006-05-01 11:20:00	Well, I'm not so young myself, Sue! I'm right on your wavelength - all understood. The only problem is that we men are not yet "liberated", but we are getting there, slowly, slowly, slowly. Each generation has its own problems and solutions. Women sure got their act together, starting in the '60s. Men, imho, only started in the '90s. BTW, I have a lot of time and respect for the older generation (now in their 80s and 90s). Thanks to them, we still speak English and not German or Japanese! But OMG, the patriarchy, sexism, yeegads! Hey now, this aint so uglyyyyy, eh?	Strommer (42)
450925	2006-05-01 11:30:00	Well sometimes ugly is on the flip side of life..............we are what we make it? Ive been a at home mom, i ve been a working, studying mom....and then a at home again...and now im a working mom again (the sole breadwinner now) and ya know.......they all suck....because you have to juggle so much of yourself, you help no one really because you lose yourself in the being mom thing........ and life gets tiring and frustrating to the extreme. sit back and smell the rose's just doesnt happen........... life doesnt slow down.......get easy or have rose coloured glasse's....... you just get on with it as best you can, and if that means your children need to go into care...so be it. i care for those children........i am a childcare worker, fully trained and the kids are great, well worth the pain of studying hard for 3 yrs.........i love my job, both at home and at work............i was born to do this i feel........... to be a teacher and a great mom. no one can tell me otherwise. and even if they did i dont give a brass razoo what they say i know what is important to me................. beetle :thumbs:	beetle (243)
450926	2006-05-02 00:15:00	More times than I can count Jack. I have been a regular visitor for the last 25 years, day trips and stays from 2 to 5 days. Mostly, but not all, for business reasons. If it is anything to judge by, I certainly don't need maps when I visit. I have similar familiarity with most of the major cities in the North Island, and some of the larger centres in the South Island Why do you ask? Cheers Billy 8-{) It is an error to try and invoke reason from that quarter.	Cicero (40)
450927	2006-05-02 20:36:00	It is an error to try and invoke reason from that quarter. :thumbs: :lol:	Strommer (42)
450928	2006-05-02 21:22:00	I fully expected the flack I drew from the ladies in the forum. I have no doubt you are good mothers and bring your children up properly.But consider this. Fifty ,sixty, years ago when mothers did not work we had polite well behaved children. They were dressed tidily, and they polite. Today, well just take a look at them. Rude , ill mannered, mainly dressed in rags. Most of them well on the way to gaol. They take drugs, alcahol. They don't go to school. And in the most cases the parents don't care. That is the saddest part of it. Parents seem to be only interested in themselves. The kids are just a nuisance. Well now they've got a kid's hotel to be dumped in. And I know there are exceptions. So please don't bother telling me. And in case you are wondering I don't have any kids. Thank god.	JJJJJ (528)
450929	2006-05-02 21:34:00	I fully expected the flack I drew from the ladies in the forum. I have no doubt you are good mothers and bring your children up properly.But consider this. Fifty ,sixty, years ago when mothers did not work we had polite well behaved children. They were dressed tidily, and they polite. Today, well just take a look at them. Rude , ill mannered, mainly dressed in rags. Most of them well on the way to gaol. They take drugs, alcahol. They don't go to school. And in the most cases the parents don't care. That is the saddest part of it. Parents seem to be only interested in themselves. The kids are just a nuisance. Well now they've got a kid's hotel to be dumped in. And I know there are exceptions. So please don't bother telling me. And in case you are wondering I don't have any kids. Thank god. There are some merits in this argument.	Cicero (40)
450930	2006-05-02 22:58:00	There are some merits in this argument. So the question is: What makes the children of today "Rude , ill mannered" instead of "polite well behaved...dressed tidily"??	Strommer (42)
450931	2006-05-02 23:05:00	Older generations have always complained about the younger even in the Roman times. Jails are not new, murder and mayhem isn't either. Aussie was populated by ratbags that England didn't want. Dickens wrote about a few too. For goodness sake JJJJJ take off the rose coloured glasses.	Sue (33)
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