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| Thread ID: 68471 | 2006-04-30 00:56:00 | Nuclear power. | Cicero (40) | PC World Chat |
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| 450655 | 2006-04-30 02:42:00 | Seems once again we have to take a position.Mine is "for". Interesting to note,that when the first steam engine was used,they thought they were playing Russian roulette. I never said my position was against, if you read what I said you will see that it is for nuclear power, but I'm not turning a blind eye to all the problems. 'Somebody' presents a fair summary IMHO. |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 450656 | 2006-04-30 02:46:00 | I can understand the idea of one of these going bang,not being a nice idea. The fact is,that if they became common place they would become progressively safer. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 450657 | 2006-04-30 02:50:00 | I never said my position was against, if you read what I said you will see that it is for nuclear power, but I'm not turning a blind eye to all the problems. 'Somebody' presents a fair summary IMHO. At no point did I think otherwise re your stance T. I will interesting to note that the interest of this suject will lag behind the stupidity of Jafas. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 450658 | 2006-04-30 02:51:00 | NZ's future? www.niauk.org No problems, well managed? www.guardian.co.uk news.bbc.co.uk www.manchesteronline.co.uk The results: www10.antenna.nl More info: en.wikipedia.org A person I know lives in Ireland over the sea from Sellafield and she says there are plenty of cases of cancer in the area they suspect are caused by the Nuclear industry in England. "Mainly due to the fact that i live in Dublin ,Ireland, over a strech of water from England and SELLAFIELD, their ineptness is poisioning the irish sea, salmon has had to be removed from supermarkets due to finding high levels of radioactive material in the flesh.dont believe me? google it.The incidents of cancers and suchlike are on the increase of people living on the east coast of ireland (near sellafield) id rather be back in the stone age then seeing my planet poisoned. Dont ignore this as paranoia or misinformation read up on it go google sellafield yourself " Nuff said? |
zqwerty (97) | ||
| 450659 | 2006-04-30 02:57:00 | I can understand the idea of one of these going bang,not being a nice idea. The fact is,that if they became common place they would become progressively safer. But they are common place, and the safety record is good. There are about 30 in the UK alone, starting with the Magnox back in the 50s, which presumably have been or are being de-commissioned now. Admittedly, they diverted into areas like the Advanced Gas Cooled reactors and the 'Fast' sodium cooled reactors. These had problems with the exotic circulators required as compared with pressurized water which the US concentrated on. Sizewell B is a pressurizes water reactor. The safety record suggests that PWR would be the way to go. Edit:. OK zqwerty's reference says that there are now 11 nuclear stations and about 11 or so have been decommissioned, most like the old Magnox stations. But his references are mainly to Sellafield previously called Windscale, that is a re-processing plant and 'experimental' site. The problems there are not with a power station. |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 450660 | 2006-04-30 03:28:00 | The fundamental problem is that a failure of the safety procedures can be catastrophic, as at Chernobyl . Training and maintaining the alertness of operators when "nothing ever goes wrong" is difficult . Managers and accountants don't like spending money on non-productive activities like ongoing training . Sellafield/Windscale, being an experimental station, should have been safer than a production power station, because it would have much more skilled and knowledgable operators and supervisors, fully alert at all times . ;) Poblems there seem to have been "solved" by changing the name of the station . |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 450661 | 2006-04-30 04:35:00 | But they are common place, and the safety record is good. I meant even more common place T. Again I state my position,For. They even manage reactors on ships and subs. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 450662 | 2006-04-30 05:03:00 | All quite pointless, The reduced need for power will eventally come, Though it will be brought about quite possible from our inability to provide resources for our out of control population, Society will turn on itself, wars will follow ,famine, disease, and then a die-back of the human race. I have it pencilled in for about 2120. And make no mistake, Religion won't save your arse, though guns and food may make the difference. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 450663 | 2006-04-30 05:05:00 | Cicero: That is true, however the Windscale/Sellafield disasters show the dangers involved, and the handling - storage - processing factors are still problem areas. Then, another aspect not mentioned in this thread yet is "nuclear proliferation", would you be happy with Iran/Iraq/Palestine/Sudan/Ethiopia/Nigeria/...... all having their own nuclear plants??? Met. we must all work towards reducing populations then............... that would solve a lot of problems.............but how???????? |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 450664 | 2006-04-30 05:10:00 | would you be happy with Iran/Iraq/Palestine/Sudan/Ethiopia/Nigeria/...... all having their own nuclear plants??? I would, after all the Yanks, Chinese, Russians and a boatload of others have them already, and none are any less trust worthy then these countries, America imparticular are a war-mongering nation...who have shown they love to start wars in places they have no right to interfere, and will denonate nuclear weapons on cities for the purpose of burning entire populations. |
Metla (12) | ||
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