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| Thread ID: 68471 | 2006-04-30 00:56:00 | Nuclear power. | Cicero (40) | PC World Chat |
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| 450795 | 2006-09-27 11:43:00 | Read the link that I posted to the "Land of the Wolves". | zqwerty (97) | ||
| 450796 | 2006-09-27 12:03:00 | Here is a link to get you started: www.angelfire.com |
zqwerty (97) | ||
| 450797 | 2006-09-28 15:01:00 | 'One degree and we're done for' www.newscientist.com |
zqwerty (97) | ||
| 450798 | 2006-10-26 21:54:00 | Chernobyl haunts the Norwegian uplands: www.newscientist.com |
zqwerty (97) | ||
| 450799 | 2007-06-11 12:19:00 | Bump | zqwerty (97) | ||
| 450800 | 2007-06-12 11:38:00 | I think there is no doub,t Atomic power is the power of future. I see Thailand has just comissioned rather a large one,which by the way is where yours truly is at mo,another fortnight to go and back home. These young ladies keep beckoning from the bars along street,not sure what they want,anybody speak Thai? |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 450801 | 2007-06-13 10:42:00 | I commend Cicero on his perceptiveness on the future of nuclear energy, whether the nuclear-phobics of New Zealand like it or not, in the longer term we don't have much option. Fossil fuels may appear to be the cheap option, but not only are they are rapidly diminishing finite resources, but the long term consequences of global warming belie their cheapness. The association with Nuclear weapons can be a frightening aspect for many people who have lived in a backwater from the real world of international power politics, and this was probably the inspiration for the Lange induced Nuclear Free New Zealand. As someone who served with RAF tactical nuclear bomber squadrons during the cold war, I have this comment, as horrible as the prospects of a world war may be, and especially one using nuclear weapons, the existence of nuclear weapons actually ensured that my generation did not have to fight a world war like my father's and grandfather's generations had to. Whether we like it or not, the fact is one cannot turn the clock back or un-invent something, the genie is out of the bottle, and on the plus side nuclear power has a lot to offer mankind. My belief is that nuclear phobia will delay the making of the logical decision that by the time NZ actually decides that nuclear power is the way of the future, that given the lead time to build and commission a nuclear power station, the population will suffer major power shortages with all the accompanying economic penalties. Surely the way of the future is to have two Nuclear stations in the North island, and use them as the primary electricity source, with the hydro and thermal generation assets held as peak load and emergency back-up. |
KenESmith (6287) | ||
| 450802 | 2007-06-13 11:20:00 | Astounding viewpoint, I am an old man myself, I have traveled over more than a bit of the world and I am very well informed and up to date with the latest technology plus very scientifically oriented. I have been fixing complex machines all my life and the one thing I have learned is that the more complicated something gets the more likely that something will go wrong with it sooner or later. With NP one can not afford this, you are gambling with very high stakes and for a future that does not belong to you. People of the future will curse us already for the mess that has been made and you want to make more. | zqwerty (97) | ||
| 450803 | 2007-06-13 11:36:00 | Astounding viewpoint, I am an old man myself, I have traveled over more than a bit of the world and I am very well informed and up to date with the latest technology plus very scientifically oriented. I have been fixing complex machines all my life and the one thing I have learned is that the more complicated something gets the more likely that something will go wrong with it sooner or later. With NP one can not afford this, you are gambling with very high stakes and for a future that does not belong to you. People of the future will curse us already for the mess that has been made and you want to make more.That's the whole point of modern nuclear reactors - they're designed to be simpler, not more complex. Instead of requiring the complexity to stop it in the event of something going wrong (like Chernobyl), the complexity is now needed to keep it going - in the event something does go wrong the whole thing will simply stop working. It's simply not possible for a fission explosion to take place in a modern nuclear reactor! You can make all the mistakes you like, the worst that can happen is that the reactor will shut down. | Erayd (23) | ||
| 450804 | 2007-06-13 13:05:00 | There is nothing simple about Nuclear Engineering. Once you have a fissioning pile (which you need to generate heat) it can overheat and melt through the containment vessel and contaminate or worse explode and blast superheated radioactive steam into the upper atmosphere. Sounds like you are talking about fusion, which has self annihilating process characteristics but still very dangerous and has not been achieved in any meaningful way so far, except for the big one which has sustained us for so long, the Sun. If you think Nuclear Reactors are safe you have bought into the BS that the vested interest corporations have been broadcasting for so long. When will people learn that you cannot trust the people (corporations) who stand to gain when they tell you about their products, how can you be so naive? The scientists can and are bought as well. Money is a very powerful incentive to see things the way the paymaster does, surely that is obvious, Universities are not above this behaviour as well. |
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