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Thread ID: 68560	2006-05-03 07:02:00	telecome will unbundle!!!	robsonde (120)	PC World Chat

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451685	2006-05-04 07:54:00	Wrong on tv3 news tonight they reported it could be six months before we see faster speeds from other providers. No. Correction. We will see ISPs offering faster speeds. Being able to deliver them is another thing - like the hundreds and hundreds of posts all over the place from people currently on 3.5Mbps who now get under 1Mbps or even worse.	pctek (84)
451686	2006-05-04 07:59:00	2.5Mbps = 2560KbpsYes, but the download speed you get on a 3.5MBit connection is a maximum of 448KB/s or the max speed on a 2MBit connection is 256KB/s... Edit: Corrected the units I mixed up in this post (also incorrect in my other post but I can't edit that one anymore). I'm pretty sure the original calculation is correct though, just with messed up units.	maccrazy (6741)
451687	2006-05-04 08:20:00	Having listened to all the experts,it's going to be 2 years b4 we reap any benefit of the UB,so be prepared for the long wait. Is that faster or slower than what would have happened without LLU. pctek, that everything will remain as it is now, presupposes that competing firms will roll out the much the same equipment, set up in the same way, in the exchanges and run and the same ratios. I guess they could, but isn't the idea to create an environment where there is true competition for customers, on price and technology, i.e. actually faster, cheaper internet that can do all sorts of marvelous things as advertised. Do you think the plug will be pulled on DSL2 now, or will it be rolled out faster in an attempt to take a march on the pack?	Murray P (44)
451688	2006-05-04 11:20:00	And of course none of this will happen over night. I wonder how long it will take for the other ISP etc to get up and running. And they will only be interested in the main centres as well. It won't happen overnight but it will happen yeah right!! To combine two adverts as may be. We don't have our extra 3000 police yet do we?	Sweep (90)
451689	2006-05-04 21:38:00	Another thing.... Telecom may make billions of dollars per year, but they also donate several millions into our education system every year. What other communications company (or any other company for that matter) in NZ does that? That donation followed Clear when they first started up in NZ. They offered the payment to your local school and then Telecom followed ! Telecom have NEVER initiated a price/service deal - they always follow what the competetion do. Eg $4.00 calls to Australia etc was Clear's, Prepaid phones was Bell South's. Regards Digby NZ	Digby (677)
451690	2006-05-04 21:45:00	Forgetting all of the technical arguments for a moment, the whole point is that now NZ will be able to move forward if Telecom is now offering us 3.5 mbs service, Australia is now getting 10 mbs but the UK and Europe are now getting 24 ! The whole point was the Telecom were not investing much in the network because they did not have to. Those Telecom supporting Luddites will no doubt opt to stay on 56K dial up or 2 mbs broadband for the next 10 years. Regards Digby	Digby (677)
451691	2006-05-04 21:53:00	Just as an aside, as one who has followed this matter over the last few years I would really like to take this opportunity to thank Peter Novak of the New Zealand Herald. In their Tuesday and Friday editions they run a IT section called @Connect. And just about every week for the last 2 years, Peter has run an article on NZ's poor broadband service, or Telecoms antics etc, and how we are being held back. So if you ever get to meet him, please buy him a beer from me ! (note PC World never ran any articles on our poor broadband) I read with great interest in this Wednesday's Herald one of the reasons behind the cabinet's decision to unbundle the Local Loop. Apparantly Helen Clark was in South Korea earlier year and they showed her some of their internet systems (they are 2nd in the OECD) and she was blown away by the speed of it and upset and privately embarresed and annoyed, that NZ's was so slow. So I think she made up her mind then and there that Telecom had had their last go at it. I am not sure that David Cunnliffe would have gone for it if he was left to himself. Regards Digby	Digby (677)
451692	2006-05-04 22:34:00	Just as an aside, as one who has followed this matter over the last few years I would really like to take this opportunity to thank Peter Novak of the New Zealand Herald . In their Tuesday and Friday editions they run a IT section called @Connect . And just about every week for the last 2 years, Peter has run an article on NZ's poor broadband service, or Telecoms antics etc, and how we are being held back . So if you ever get to meet him, please buy him a beer from me ! (note PC World never ran any articles on our poor broadband) I read with great interest in this Wednesday's Herald one of the reasons behind the cabinet's decision to unbundle the Local Loop . Apparently Helen Clark was in South Korea earlier year and they showed her some of their internet systems (they are 2nd in the OECD) and she was blown away by the speed of it and upset and privately embarrassed and annoyed, that NZ's was so slow . So I think she made up her mind then and there that Telecom had had their last go at it . I am not sure that David Cunnliffe would have gone for it if he was left to himself . Regards Digby Geoff Palmer had a go at Telecom some time ago . We the people have to stand by until the likes of Clarke and co deem that things will change . That is described as democracy .	Cicero (40)
451693	2006-05-04 22:53:00	Forgetting all of the technical arguments for a moment, the whole point is that now NZ will be able to move forward if Telecom is now offering us 3.5 mbs service, Australia is now getting 10 mbs but the UK and Europe are now getting 24 ! Why focus on the leading edge? The problem in NZ is that the early adopters are the same people that hammer data caps and are never profitable for ISPs. US companies like AT&T and Verison probably have the majority of their customers still on plans less than 1.5M and that is probably true in the other markets where SOME customers get latest technology speeds. If Auckland had huge residential tower blocks like Singapore, Hong Kong, Korea etc it would also be easy to hook high speed DSLAMs into the internal cabling.	PaulD (232)
451694	2006-05-05 01:20:00	Why focus on the leading edge? The problem in NZ is that the early adopters are the same people that hammer data caps and are never profitable for ISPs. US companies like AT&T and Verison probably have the majority of their customers still on plans less than 1.5M and that is probably true in the other markets where SOME customers get latest technology speeds. If Auckland had huge residential tower blocks like Singapore, Hong Kong, Korea etc it would also be easy to hook high speed DSLAMs into the internal cabling. 1. Because it usually sets the mark for the more common plans. 2. Because the everage business/home business/teleworker requires the option of fast reliable broadband, but not necessarilly the latenency and banswidth a gamer will require (see 1.). The ability to suck down or fire off large .pdf files, for e.g. is a boon to me on 2mb up/down compared to when I was on 2mb/512kb let alone 128kb (forget dialup) that I would hate to contemplate anything less. 3. The top end of the market requires speed, reliability and bandwidth, if they can get they'll pay (think research establishements, movie and music industries as oppossed to the relatively small and poor gaming community). Most producers of consumer product have marquee brands that set the standard for quality and technological achievement. A bit of appendage waving if you like, a marketing ploy that is often sols at a loss but is very important to the overall product line in many ways all the same. Monopolies don't need to do this, it's more a take it or go elsewhere, ha ha, attitude. BTW. Orcon are saying they are going to push into the rural and spare parts end of the market, where the others are unlikely to be seen, which is good news for those that have been left out so far, if the talk transpires to action that is.	Murray P (44)
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