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Thread ID: 68608 2006-05-05 01:12:00 When can NZ expect high Def TV?? WestMclaren2004 (7303) PC World Chat
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452261 2006-05-27 02:28:00 PAL: 576i
NTSC: 480i
DVD: Depends on whether it is a PAL or NTSC disk. Generally people think of DVD quality as 480p.


what res is standard DVD? I thought it was 720pRemember that video resolution refers to the number of horizontal lines, so DVD resolution is 720 vertical lines x the number of horizontal lines.
maccrazy (6741)
452262 2006-06-15 09:22:00 Well to those that say there is no difference, you have not seen any video in 1080p. As for resolution 1080i and 720p are pretty similar, unless they are side by side, you won’t be able to tell the difference. 1080p is quite a bit better though. And I disagree that you need a big screen, someone with 20/20 can see about 120pixels/degree, so to see full detail on a 21" TV you need to be 3.8m or closer for PAL, 3.5m or closer for 720p, and 2m or closer for 1080p, and the distances double for a 42". Now im not saying a big TV isn't better I use a 120" HD projector :) Sky and others will be forced to bring out HD, as the internet gets faster and more people have HD capable sets (and bittorrent) people are just going to be downloading and sharing the latest TV shows. Not to mention the world wide release dates. 10 GB per month may not be that much, but then you trade you season of Greys Anatomy for your mates season of Lost and soon you have all the TV you want, and the TV providers will be loosing a lot of eyeballs. (And I know that the lost HD divx that you have downloaded is probably not really HD :) I don’t know why 1808i exists at all, interlacing is a product of old technology, and shouldn't exist in a digital world. no doubt HD will be released here as 720p or 1080i, witch are about the same, but still look great compared to PAL.

Anyway... rant rant rant... :blush:
Bring on HDDVD and Bluray! :)
diecastblue (10352)
452263 2006-06-15 09:37:00 oh and streaming internet HD? HAHA, it takes something like 25Mbit/s and up for MPEG2 HD (Bluray needs 54Mbps) , telecom just released it's "super high speed next gen" 3.6Mbit/s speed.If you use MPEG4 or H264 then It would be more likely, but when ever anyone uses that sort of compression they over do it,(go look at some of the sky channels on a 100+" TV) HD usually looks like **** in Divx.


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rant rant
diecastblue (10352)
452264 2006-06-15 09:41:00 I don’t know why 1808i exists at all, interlacing is a product of old technology, and shouldn't exist in a digital world.It reduces the bandwidth needed for transmission. :) maccrazy (6741)
452265 2006-06-15 09:44:00 oh and streaming internet HD? HAHA,

rant rant

You will of course note the complete absence of any reference to HD in my post about streaming media.

Its TV, its crap no matter how much detail they put on the screen. I would imagine that the video service launched by Apple is turning over millions every weekl. And thats a long way from HD.

I would much prefer to pick and choose what and when I view a program, Rather then watch Greys' Anatomy in HD....
Metla (12)
452266 2006-06-15 09:53:00 yeah well 1080i still shouldn't exist IMHO, just stick with 720p. and yes picking and choosing what and when you watch, aka video on demand, would be great, im not disputing that, but we are a long way away from that in NZ diecastblue (10352)
452267 2006-06-15 09:54:00 and why do you care if you get to pick and choose if it's all "crappy TV" :) diecastblue (10352)
452268 2006-06-15 09:56:00 Read this article . Sky are launching HDTV in two years but sky are saying that those with HDTVs now wont work as they have a european system inside them which wont work in this country . Also Sky are looking at a anti piracy system to build into the decoder or tv . Hers the article i read today .





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Retailers blur HDTV picture
13 June 2006
By ANNA CHALMERS

Retailers admit they have no idea whether televisions will work when new high-definition technology arrives and have called on manufacturers to clarify the situation .


A consumer watchdog says people who have bought TVs sold as HD-ready could qualify for a refund if the sets turn out not to work with the new technology .

Sky has warned that most TV sets sold in New Zealand are not capable of screening high-definition pictures using the European format it hopes to adopt in the next 1-1/2 to two years .

It is understood that up to 40 per cent of Sony plasma and LCD screens marketed as "high definition" would not work under Sky's proposal, which needs an anti-pirating device and special multi-media plug . TVNZ, TV3 and other networks also plan to introduce digital services, but have not yet finalised operating formats .

Hollywood studios will not distribute high-definition content without a foolproof anti-piracy system .

Sets capable of screening HD pictures cost upward of $2700 and operate by packing in more pixels per square inch – with 720 to 1100 horizontal lines compared with 576 on traditional screens .

Dick Smith merchandise manager James Cunnold said retailers were working blind without a set standard for HDTV .

"We don't know what the future is and we don't know when it's coming to us, or what the standards are . "

He said the industry lacked leadership and called on manufacturers to communicate requirements and set proper standards .

Sony has promoted more than 30 models as "HD-ready" and was reviewing its range yesterday, product manager Glen Chean said .

Panasonic was also seeking reassurance from factory producers that plasma and LCD screens sold in the past year were HD-ready . It was unlikely sets older than 12 months, or brand new "tube" TVs, would be compatible with the HD technology .

LV Martin & Son Ngauranga store manager Gary Challis said the retailer had contacted its suppliers yesterday . "We assumed the ones that were coming through would be compatible, but that may not be the case and we're investigating that . "

Consumers Institute chief executive David Russell described the situation as "very unsatisfactory" . Television technology in New Zealand was at a crossroads, with American and European sets for sale and no clarity over how our system would work when the new technology arrived . "It's like the (1980s) VCR versus Beta debate – two competing types . If you bought a Beta player in the end you were on the outside . "

Set standards were needed urgently along with a "tick" campaign so consumers knew they were buying a future-proof set, he said .

The electronics industry has undertaken to update standards by the end of the year .

Till then manufacturers should be careful about promoting TVs as "HD-ready" as customers who buy a TV set advertised as such that did not work could be in line for a refund .

Mr Russell stopped short of warning consumers to put off buying new television sets, but said they should get written assurance from retailers that the sets were future-proof . Sky says it is too early to specify how the transition to HDTV would affect customers with incompatible sets . Industry experts said it was possible viewers watching high-definition programmes on incompatible sets could get a distorted picture .

Sky communications director Tony O'Brien said the broadcaster would work with all the industry players to solve the issue . Though they had declared a preference for European HDTV standards, this was open to review .

In Britain thousands of fans were poised for the introduction of HDTV to coincide with the World Cup but Sky had reportedly put back installation because of compatibility issues .
Hitech (9024)
452269 2006-06-15 21:46:00 And if Sky goes ahead with this dictatorial attitude of introducing HDMI only set top boxes only they deserve to fail. I hope the do. They have not learned anything from the MPAA and their attempt to do this sort of thing in the US and Japan with Hi Def DVD products. The consumers there gave them the one fingered salute so they backed down. I hope the NZ consumer does the same.. But I guess a monopoly can do what they like.. paulw (1826)
452270 2006-06-15 23:59:00 Ultra HD to blast HDTV out of the water

You heard it, high definition (HD) is already old news as the next step in picture development is underway . While most of us are still waiting to actually see a Blu-Ray or HD DVD player in action, moves are afoot to come up with a successor . Ultra High Definition Video (Ultra HD) is under development by NHK in Japan which will greatly boost both picture and sound quality .

For instance, Ultra HD will offer 16 times the resolution of todays HDTV, split into four times the vertical and four times the horizontal quality . That’s an eye-popping resolution of 7680 x 4320 pixels . On the sound front, Ultra HD will support 22:2 multi-channel sound – current surround sound stands at 7:1 . Breaking it down by speaker layout, that’s 9 above ear level, 10 at ear level, 3 below ear level and 2 subwoofers . Still, there’s no reason to throw out your brand new HDTV just yet – it will be 20 years before it’s commercially ready . That said, they already have two Ultra HD cameras .
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