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Thread ID: 68765	2006-05-10 06:28:00	XP wins - no more linux for me....	sam m (517)	PC World Chat

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453807	2007-05-19 20:23:00	I agree with most of what you say, but there is one point i will choose to differ on. The "rules" of Linux aren't what's changing in any huge way, but what is, is the "helpful" widgets and the likes that enable you to configure your system without actually going to any files and editing them manually... which isn't actually that hard. What i would like to see is a add on to control center and the likes that told the user it's editing /etc/network/interfaces (for example) rather than simply running you past a form asking you all the questions on IP address and so forth and altering the *secret* file for you. Here's my /etc/network/interfaces just to prove the point. # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback address 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.0.1 auto eth0 As you can see the actual configuration file is very direct, and possibly simpler than using the control center. It's just knowing where it is that's the hard part, as per what Joe said in the above post.	personthingy (1670)
453808	2007-05-19 20:57:00	Mepis and Ubuntu are fun . . and for the life of me, I don't really know what I did right to make Mepis run my homebrewed server . . . but it works . . so I'll stay here with it for a while . What I don't like is that every boot-up requires a search for all sorts of combinations and variations on drivers for things I don't even have . Sadly, that seems to increase the boot times radically and makes it harder and longer to boot than XP . And this is probably the MAIN reason I use Gentoo . The learning curve is higher and longer, but once you start getting on your way, you can configure your system how you want I realize that I COULD write some code to eliminate the search and post happening . . but I am not that far enough advanced to try that . . . especially on a system that is working . . trying to comply with Chill's statement above (^) . XP with grub runs well enough . . they don't actually "see" each other . . but that's OK too, as when I run one, why do I need to see the other system? All-in-all, I like Ubuntu and Mepis, leaning toward Mepis a little more . . . but they are both fraught with illnesses that if I didn't accidentally make them work, I'd have no documentable ideas about what DOES make them work that I could print . Chat rooms and blogs are pretty much useless . . with the exception of the fine people here at F1 . . but going to other sites is downright embarrassing . . . . they seem to hate you asking dumb questions and keep the good stuff close to the vest to keep you in the dark . Embarrassed or not, I plunge on merrily here at F1 . . . . hell or high water . There are only one or two who practice "I'm God" attitudes here and I block their drivel anyway . It seems to me that Linux-based people seem to want to keep some great big secret and not let non-technos use "their" system . Resentment runs high . . . on both sides of the fence . . . . . . . . . they resent your intrusion; I resent their snottiness . There is sometimes on occasion a helpful person who then proceeds to swamp you with technojargon and code that a Poindexter would have trouble understanding . . . no offense intended to anyone named Poindexter . . . it's a class thing, not an individual dis . I imagine that the helpful person is then banned from the site for trying to be nice to me . Ugh! :xmouth: XP has not crashed on me for eons . . however ME did . . . . as well as 98SE used to . . . . . but I was asking 98SE to do things that it did not want to do anyway . Seems to me that the argument that Windows is progressive and Linux is revolutionary for every distro makes some sense . If you know 98, then going to 2000 or XP isn't a quantum leap . . . but just try that with Linux-based systems . There seems to be a very loose set of rules and they change all the time . A person needs rules to know where he stands all the time . . and if the rules constantly change, then I see no realizable consistency in Linux . Maybe a new distro that loads like Windows and has a modicum of consistency and recognizable code would be a great idea . It's hard enough to learn on a severely uphill-graded curve, but then to change the curve all the time is just plain mean and wrong . Give us a Bell Curve or a parabolic one . . . . . or not . . . . we can live with one set of rules . I agree with most of what you say, but there is one point i will choose to differ on . The "rules" of Linux aren't what's changing in any huge way, but what is, is the "helpful" widgets and the likes that enable you to configure your system without actually going to any files and editing them manually . . . which isn't actually that hard . What i would like to see is a add on to control center and the likes that told the user it's editing /etc/network/interfaces (for example) rather than simply running you past a form asking you all the questions on IP address and so forth and altering the *secret* file for you . Here's my /etc/network/interfaces just to prove the point . # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system # and how to activate them . For more information, see interfaces(5) . # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback address 127 . 0 . 0 . 1 netmask 255 . 0 . 0 . 0 # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192 . 168 . 0 . 200 netmask 255 . 255 . 255 . 0 gateway 192 . 168 . 0 . 1 auto eth0 As you can see the actual configuration file is very direct, and possibly simpler than using the control center . It's just knowing where it is that's the hard part, as per what Joe said in the above post . Agreed :thumbs:	Myth (110)
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