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Thread ID: 68765	2006-05-10 06:28:00	XP wins - no more linux for me....	sam m (517)	PC World Chat

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453797	2007-05-17 10:47:00	Gentoo + Fluxbox == bliss :thumbs:	Myth (110)
453798	2007-05-17 11:09:00	TideMan, I despair for anyone who cannot perform the math to establish that 1996 was 10 years ago, not 20, and that my being 6 in 1996 makes me now 16, not 26. But that was for Win95 and you said you started on DOS when you were four so you didn't quite get it right either. He was just generalising a bit too.	mikebartnz (21)
453799	2007-05-17 11:24:00	Mikebart, I'd say that seeing as it's now a year since this thread was in action, we could probably leave any picky arguments from then be. Is Gentoo blissful, Myth, or is that 1337 propaganda? I would've thought that having to manually compile each and every piece of code would get a bit unblissful before long...? Both for having to set it up, and the actual time compiling anything big must take. In Fluxbox it is fun being able to set up every little thing just how you want though. What do you do with Gentoo that makes it so particularly good for you personally?	Atreides (7000)
453800	2007-05-17 11:28:00	it felt like a lot of people where making little apps to do only the features they want without anyone overseeing the project to get one app to do everything that is required. The problem a lot of the time when you get one app to do everything you get bloat which ninety percent of the people don't need. So many people I know who have word could probably survive with Wordpad. The beauty of Linux is if you don't like one thing you can try another. I can't stand Gnome and prefer KDE. I can't stand half the things loaded on a Windows install but have to go through hoops just to get rid of them	mikebartnz (21)
453801	2007-05-17 12:43:00	Is Gentoo blissful, Myth, or is that 1337 propaganda? I would've thought that having to manually compile each and every piece of code would get a bit unblissful before long...? Even gentoo isn't that crazy.	Greven (91)
453802	2007-05-17 17:53:00	I used to be the same Mikebartnz, KDE for me... or maybe Openbox / e17 if I was feeling adventurous. Since installing Ubuntu Ive been blessed with not having to configure things, and a Gnome desktop that 'just works'. I installed KDE but found it big, clunky, and while the window borders are prettier, Im using Beryl so get some cooler ones ;) I still cant pry myself away from amaroK and K3b to something Gtk-based. Those apps are sticking around on my desktop for a while to come ;) I got bored with Gentoo after they moved to the new GUI-based install system. Kinda took the fun outta it for me :D	Chilling_Silence (9)
453803	2007-05-17 19:38:00	Is Gentoo blissful, Myth, or is that 1337 propaganda? I would've thought that having to manually compile each and every piece of code would get a bit unblissful before long...? Both for having to set it up, and the actual time compiling anything big must take. Theres nothing elite (note I use the proper word, and not the one used by tards) about using Gentoo, and I definitely am NOT elite for using Gentoo. I like to be able to configure my OS to the minute degree, (and before you call me a ricer, Im not just talking about speed), tell emerge what I do and don't want installed with this package. Sure, being source based it takes a lot longer, but once you have finished, the satisfaction felt (for me) is in direct comparison to the length of time it took :D I got bored with Gentoo after they moved to the new GUI-based install system. Kinda took the fun outta it for me Try the 2006.1 minimal install CD :)	Myth (110)
453804	2007-05-17 20:10:00	Addition: the main reason I use Gentoo is that re-compiling is soo much easier on Gentoo Ever tried to recompile a kernel on any other distro? Even on Debian (my second favourite distro) its a PITA at the best of times	Myth (110)
453805	2007-05-17 22:13:00	Oh? I found the opposite - recompiling a kernel on Debian seems fairly similar to how I found it under Gentoo. apt-get install the kernel source, then menuconfig, make, and install. Then generate the ramdisk image. For those who are so inclined, you can also use make-kpkg to generate a .deb containing all the kernel files, which makes upgrading easier as it all ties into the dpkg database.	Erayd (23)
453806	2007-05-19 19:36:00	Mepis and Ubuntu are fun..and for the life of me, I don't really know what I did right to make Mepis run my homebrewed server...but it works..so I'll stay here with it for a while. What I don't like is that every boot-up requires a search for all sorts of combinations and variations on drivers for things I don't even have. Sadly, that seems to increase the boot times radically and makes it harder and longer to boot than XP. I realize that I COULD write some code to eliminate the search and post happening ..but I am not that far enough advanced to try that...especially on a system that is working..trying to comply with Chill's statement above (^). XP with grub runs well enough..they don't actually "see" each other..but that's OK too, as when I run one, why do I need to see the other system? All-in-all, I like Ubuntu and Mepis, leaning toward Mepis a little more...but they are both fraught with illnesses that if I didn't accidentally make them work, I'd have no documentable ideas about what DOES make them work that I could print. Chat rooms and blogs are pretty much useless..with the exception of the fine people here at F1..but going to other sites is downright embarrassing....they seem to hate you asking dumb questions and keep the good stuff close to the vest to keep you in the dark. Embarrassed or not, I plunge on merrily here at F1....hell or high water. There are only one or two who practice "I'm God" attitudes here and I block their drivel anyway. It seems to me that Linux-based people seem to want to keep some great big secret and not let non-technos use "their" system. Resentment runs high...on both sides of the fence.... .....they resent your intrusion; I resent their snottiness. There is sometimes on occasion a helpful person who then proceeds to swamp you with technojargon and code that a Poindexter would have trouble understanding ...no offense intended to anyone named Poindexter...it's a class thing, not an individual dis. I imagine that the helpful person is then banned from the site for trying to be nice to me. Ugh! :xmouth: XP has not crashed on me for eons..however ME did.... as well as 98SE used to... ..but I was asking 98SE to do things that it did not want to do anyway. Seems to me that the argument that Windows is progressive and Linux is revolutionary for every distro makes some sense. If you know 98, then going to 2000 or XP isn't a quantum leap...but just try that with Linux-based systems. There seems to be a very loose set of rules and they change all the time. A person needs rules to know where he stands all the time..and if the rules constantly change, then I see no realizable consistency in Linux. Maybe a new distro that loads like Windows and has a modicum of consistency and recognizable code would be a great idea. It's hard enough to learn on a severely uphill-graded curve, but then to change the curve all the time is just plain mean and wrong. Give us a Bell Curve or a parabolic one .....or not.. ..we can live with one set of rules.	SurferJoe46 (51)
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