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| Thread ID: 68765 | 2006-05-10 06:28:00 | XP wins - no more linux for me.... | sam m (517) | PC World Chat |
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| 453787 | 2006-05-17 10:46:00 | :horrified The style of prose I would have expected Edward Gibbon (Decline & Fall of the Roman Empire) to have used. Pretty impressive all the same. Have you been studying 18th C literature? CB on new meds :cool: |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 453788 | 2006-05-17 10:57:00 | Well, They seem far better then the old meds. | Metla (12) | ||
| 453789 | 2006-05-17 11:54:00 | ...updating Firefox even. (Turned out that multi-platform Firefox didn't actually have a 1.5 version for Ubuntu.)Um - what? It does. I run Ubuntu (5.10 with the kubuntu-desktop packages) and guess what I'm using right now. Granted it's not just a simple installer, but it's also not at all complex - and takes all of 3 minutes to do properly. One if you're lazy and do it the sloppy way. And there are a lot of guides - just ask Google. Also regarding your comments about compiling software - this shouldn't normally be too complex. For most linux software (that isn't already in an rpm or similar) all you should need to compile it is the GCC compiler & the libraries that go with it. Dependencies are another issue you may run into - but just hope you don't, as these can be very time consuming if they're not in the Ubuntu repositories (although they usually are). |
Erayd (23) | ||
| 453790 | 2006-05-17 20:35:00 | CB on new meds :cool: :confused: |
jcr1 (893) | ||
| 453791 | 2006-05-18 05:44:00 | Installing things through Synaptic, apt-get or rpms couldn't be easier, if you can find what you want. It's what happens when you get a source-only installation that causes trouble, and driver modules for wireless USB devices are a sight more problematic than most, it seems. Apparently this particular one has a disagreement of some sort with my kernel version. Bletch, at the time I was trying to update Firefox, maybe a week or so after it first was released for Windows, there was no Ubuntu support for Firefox. It's changed now, yes I have 1.5. Pretty impressive all the same. Have you been studying 18th C literature? A bit of Shakespeare, in fact, and also French. But I do enjoy a good sophisticated rave now and then, especially if I feel I'm being demeaned. Gotta love dictionary.reference.com (dictionary.reference.com) 's Word of the Day archive. Good stuff. :D Oho, this is rich. Just had a look at TideMan's post history, and would you believe it, he started this thread on setting up a (different) wireless USB adapter under Linux (pressf1.pcworld.co.nz)! :eek: And his first post tells us he couldn't even do a Google search! And he can't change his boot order to run Knoppix from the LiveCD! pressf1.pcworld.co.nz When people ***** about Linux being too hard, I say you're just lazy. Here I am in Knoppix. I tried Linux before, using RedHat and never could get the hang of it. Knoppix looks and feels pretty familiar. I can even access my PC files and edit them. I shouldn't be digging like this, but seriously, it looks as if he hasn't moved far past his punch cards. What's he picking on me for? Cheers, people. |
Atreides (7000) | ||
| 453792 | 2006-05-18 06:23:00 | you are playing with fire there Atreides. Sticking the knife in like that will come back to haunt you sooner or later. | Greven (91) | ||
| 453793 | 2006-05-18 06:27:00 | Installing things through Synaptic, apt-get or rpms couldn't be easier, if you can find what you want. It's what happens when you get a source-only installation that causes trouble, and driver modules for wireless USB devices are a sight more problematic than most, it seems. Apparently this particular one has a disagreement of some sort with my kernel version. Bletch, at the time I was trying to update Firefox, maybe a week or so after it first was released for Windows, there was no Ubuntu support for Firefox. It's changed now, yes I have 1.5. A bit of Shakespeare, in fact, and also French. But I do enjoy a good sophisticated rave now and then, especially if I feel I'm being demeaned. Gotta love dictionary.reference.com (dictionary.reference.com) 's Word of the Day archive. Good stuff. :D Oho, this is rich. Just had a look at TideMan's post history, and would you believe it, he started this thread on setting up a (different) wireless USB adapter under Linux (pressf1.pcworld.co.nz)! :eek: And his first post tells us he couldn't even do a Google search! And he can't change his boot order to run Knoppix from the LiveCD! pressf1.pcworld.co.nz I shouldn't be digging like this, but seriously, it looks as if he hasn't moved far past his punch cards. What's he picking on me for? Cheers, people. :thumbs: |
plod (107) | ||
| 453794 | 2006-05-18 06:55:00 | You Linux nerds have been hiding your lamps under bushels. All this Windows nausea with activation problems, no longer being able to install one copy of Windows on your desktop and your laptop, restoration discs, the bloat, the bugs, the security holes, the malware and all the garbage (Clippy!) that takes weeks to get rid of after an installation prompted me 3 or 4 years ago to try Linux. I was tipped over the edge when half my hardware wouldn’t work with XP. I installed Red Hat 9.0. The learning curve was too steep for the time I had to spare, and half my software was no good with that either. Bye-bye Linux with regret. I’m not going to play the silly game with Vista, so when support runs out for XP in a few years I’ll need an alternative. Yesterday, after a day or two experimenting with Mandriva and Fedora Core 5, I installed Ubuntu 5.10 on my desktop. Within a couple of hours I had everything important running and configured. Today I installed it on my Asus laptop. After a couple of hours fiddling I had wireless networking, sound, touchpad, internet, email – everything except my built-in webcam. Never use it anyway. Ubuntu is absolutely excellent – far exceeded my expectations. The support forums and the wiki bend over backwards to help newbies. Bill’s days are numbered in my house if I can only figure out Nvu and find a replacement for Snagit! FrontPage and Corel Draw might keep me locked in to Seattle for a while, but the clock’s ticking. Just hope these Linux geeks don’t find out about my Windows help site. |
Vallis (8886) | ||
| 453795 | 2007-05-17 08:48:00 | All of this is AFtthere you go - wanted a change; not because I hate MS, but because I like the idea of Open Source. However, I live in a moving world. If I can't find a Linux distro that will recognise my wifi and my wireless broad-(haha)-band, it's a waste of my time. Must be a job out there for someone selling packages? Btw, Atreides rules. Some people have 10 years' experience; some have one year repeated 40 times. After 30 years from FORTRAN to now, I learn heaps from people younger than me. |
Ratbag54 (10384) | ||
| 453796 | 2007-05-17 09:50:00 | Ah, this old thread. Can't quite say I can see exactly what you're saying Ratbag54, but it seems to be positive. For the record, a year on I've changed my mind about linux again, sort of. I still feel basically the same as before, but my WiFi works! A complete community rewrite of the driver for my ZD1211 wifi device has been included in the linux kernel since version 2.6.18, and in fact it now works better than on XP, and faster... so long as you're familiar with enabling network interfaces by the command line. Looks like bits and pieces gleaned from the hours trying to get it to work last year before it was supported have been worthwhile in the end. In my view, Linux now does pretty much everything I need it to, and plenty more. It's more fun than Windows. Is it ready for the average man (or grandma)? There seem to be vast numbers of blogs and forums and so on discussing this question now. For just doing the basics, Ubuntu Linux should be fine for pretty much anyone. Even easier than Windows. And for doing the absolute most complicated low-level stuff, Linux is way ahead. Gentoo, anyone? It's that middle-ground where people who're maybe new to computers want to do their own thing, but without getting into the sticky innards of the system, that Linux tends to get a bit tricky. Now I've tried Red Hat 6, Slackware, Ubuntu, and a couple of mini-distros like Trinix, but the flavour I've settled on for the future is Debian (www.us.debian.org/), using Fluxbox (http:)for the window manager. Debian is the base for Ubuntu and I really like the convenience of the Apt package manager, but it's much leaner, meaner and more customisable than Ubuntu. And there's something of a geek social stigma associated with Ubuntu these days. KDE and Gnome eat too much of the system resources to be worth running, and fluxbox can be set up to look great while still loading instantly and running snappily. And by the way... the LiveCD distro BackTrack2 (www.remote-exploit.org)is rather good for any auditing and security needs you may have, and now that support for my ZD1211 is built into the kernel it works without mucking round. A laptop, BackTrack2 (www.remote-exploit.org), a USB Wifi dongle (ascent.co.nz) and one of these dishes (http://www.usbwifi.orcon.net.nz/) (make one at home) is all it takes to make any techo very happy for a weekend. :thumbs: Just don't be surprised if you end up waiting a year for kernel support... Atreides EDIT: Hey and don't even mention Vista, eh. A friend of mine bought a new laptop with it - he hates its guts. With a passion. I'm prodding him toward a linux experience. |
Atreides (7000) | ||
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