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| Thread ID: 69190 | 2006-05-25 00:24:00 | the variable internet | mark c (247) | PC World Chat |
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| 457494 | 2006-05-25 00:24:00 | With filtering and blocking software on PCs and the same thing done by ISP (according to complaints and requirements by police to remove material) the internet must be a different thing everywhere really eh? Like if you access the net in China we all know you're not getting the full monty but this also happens everywhere. Pro-nazi sites in France are blocked at a national level so where you access the net from matters in terms of what sort of net you're going to get delivered. CleanFeed in the UK tries to remove sites from Telecom Brit - the biggest ISP- presumably you couldn't 'opt out'. I imagine there are places where the Wild West days of the internet still rule. Eastern Europe for a start. I"m just rambling what Ive been thinking really. Your next door neighbour with a different ISP is going to get (albeit slightly) different content than you are. For better or worse is not the issue, just the procedure I'm interested in. There is ( or can be) filtering at the PC level, the ISP, the national level and probably even regional - Australasia eg. Any ideas, insights, scoffings ???? mark c |
mark c (247) | ||
| 457495 | 2006-05-25 01:54:00 | Its probably better than the propaganda crap we see on our own news every night. Hell last night there was a story on China using rain forest wood from Indonesia, I laughed my head off, the west has been destroying the worlds rain forests for decades and they made it sound like "evil China kill rain forest for the Olympics". Add to this our media towing the line about the US and co being in Iraq to track down terrorist and free the oppressed Iraqi people.... when anybody capable of thinking for themselves with a little insight knows they are there for Oil and regional influence. Ill take the edited net any day, at least if you know where to look you stand a chance of finding the truth. ramble over. |
Master_Frost (9951) | ||
| 457496 | 2006-05-25 02:39:00 | I think the nature of the internet is such that it should never be censored in any way, shape of form. Existing laws govern illegal activities such as child pornography, drug trafficing etc, and that is sufficient. There is no need to prevent people from accessing these sort of things, as people who knowingly do so are committing crimes. Furthermore, it is definetely not the role of the state to be imposing blocks on what you can and cannot see. It is perfectly fine in my view for ISPs to offer "child protection" style censoring software to block pornographic material, but it should always be on an opt-in basis. While people may argue that the media is censored already (ie. not allowed to publicise details about suicides etc.), that is no reason for even more censorship. That is enough as it is, and people should have a right to access information whether it is for better or worse. In western liberal democracies, freedom of speech is paramount (theoretically), so it should be adhered to. |
somebody (208) | ||
| 457497 | 2006-05-25 02:42:00 | Its probably better than the propaganda crap we see on our own news every night. Hell last night there was a story on China using rain forest wood from Indonesia, I laughed my head off, the west has been destroying the worlds rain forests for decades and they made it sound like "evil China kill rain forest for the Olympics". Add to this our media towing the line about the US and co being in Iraq to track down terrorist and free the oppressed Iraqi people.... when anybody capable of thinking for themselves with a little insight knows they are there for Oil and regional influence. Ill take the edited net any day, at least if you know where to look you stand a chance of finding the truth. ramble over. If we see so much censored and altered information as it is, why censor even more? Why limit the ablity for people to see both sides of the story, and to make up their own minds? |
somebody (208) | ||
| 457498 | 2006-05-25 05:58:00 | Well I think that the public forum aspect of the net and all it's publicly spread news is vital . You can't stop people talking and spreading word around . OK sometimes it's just hysteria but I like the idea of the net being a case of "If you don't like it don't go there" . That happens in offline life, part of life . I think there'll be a creeping spread of interference from 'authorities' from all sorts of ideologies . I just prefer the Wild World Web . cheers m |
mark c (247) | ||
| 457499 | 2006-05-25 06:41:00 | Censorship is passe :yuck: Netherlands has stuck to Laissez-faire for the last 40yrs+ . It has worked extremely well . People within a community do not need some Govt representative that they have never meet before, to tell them what not to view . Existing laws already cover illegal content . Besides our Censors Office is self funded here, and is an operational mine of bureaucratic red tape and you need a lawyer to make a submission on your behalf . And it costs $25 per image . It's a totally dysfunctional service :groan: Look at the bans placed on Postal2 and Manhunt . :lol: You can download these from P2P . No probs :thumbs: Censorship is wrong Censorship is Cruel Censorship is dead |
Utopia (7787) | ||
| 457500 | 2006-05-26 12:25:00 | I may not be a fan of what Google has done in China, but I guess that if they didn't, someone else would. Besides, any move to block such crap as extremeist sites and all that garbage is a good one. |
Cornot (10386) | ||
| 457501 | 2006-05-26 22:15:00 | But what is extremist to one person is righteous to another. Besides this isn't about censorship but that the net is so varaible, that's what occourred to me. At all levels there are going to be differences. It's not a matter of great significance (so well understood as to be beyond interest) but I was just thinking about - after a friend got www.DansGuardian.org landed on him by Te Wananga. |
mark c (247) | ||
| 457502 | 2006-05-28 12:07:00 | It's not a matter of great significance (so well understood as to be beyond interest) but I was just thinking about - after a friend got www . DansGuardian . org landed on him by Te Wananga . Me ole mate Dan . . . Your friend will just have to "surf" in the privacy of his/her own home :rolleyes: |
dolby digital (5073) | ||
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