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Thread ID: 68930 2006-05-16 02:58:00 Dancing with the Stars Antmannz (6583) PC World Chat
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455208 2006-05-20 04:59:00 It means I am once again astounded by the man, But I see no reason to apologise to him just for disagreeing, As it is he is still wrong in a number of areas, The vast majority of roads do not chew out as soon as they are used (and if they do then its usually an issue with the last layer of compaction) , And materials,method, design, and construction (including quality control) of NZ roads have all improved over the last 4 decades. All of which was mentioned in regards to the rubbish on Stuff.com.


The fact that NZ roads maybe of a poorer design then elsewhere is a moot point, The first post I made in this thread is still rock solid , I made no mention of International methods.

As for superior knowledge in road construction, I can't say there is any "new info" in regards to NZ roads in Terry's post, Though how he seems to know near everything is quite bizarre, Mantronic?


As for spelling, Suck me *****.

I think I saw you the other day Metla on a road construction.
Was that you holding the Stop/Go sign.
Safari (3993)
455209 2006-05-20 05:40:00 If it were me then, so what?

I take it you consider road workers less then you?

Perhaps you should stop and tell a crew next time your passing, If they happen to spit in your eye then mke sure you inform them that being a Mac owner also elevates you above the rabble.
Metla (12)
455210 2006-05-20 05:47:00 Come on, there's no need to take side swipes. Friendly digs are ok.

The NZ road making system is basically OK, I was probably exaggerating as usual. Without it we would never have had the roads we have now, but the two part chip seal is a weakness for heavy traffic use and axle loadings, and asphalt or asphaltic concrete is often seen added on top in problem areas.

I was not exaggerating when I said that in this area ie Hutt Valley, chip seals have to be mended within days of the first coat, maybe we have lots of hoons that delight in ripping it up with wheel spins.

Bitumen is imported, so chip seal is the only practicable wearing surface for most non-motorway roads.

We could go back to town gas and produce tar, there's plenty of coal.
Terry Porritt (14)
455211 2006-05-20 08:27:00 Sounds to me like they may have laid down a temp coating to protect the layers underneath, well aware that it will chew out.

That aside, I have to ask, Did you look up what materials we use locally or did you know that off the top of your head?
Metla (12)
455212 2006-05-20 09:49:00 I've had an interest in roading since my motorbiking days and seeing a road work cutting on the A5 near Nuneaton in the UK . The A5 is the Roman road called Watling Street . The hole was about 12 feet or more deep, and you could see layer upon layer of previous roads, the bottom layer being the Roman road .

Then later we lived in Dorset/Hamphire border where we were surrounded by Roman roads and pre Roman ways, ridge tracks etc . Stonehenge was only about 20 miles away .

When we came here and saw how roads were made and how long it could take I found out more . Our road was widened about 6 months after we moved in, and it took 6 months to do 1 kilometre, unbelievable, especially after seeing motorways being laid and surfaced at 1 mile a day .

At work we used to calibrate the soil testing equipment for MOW, penetrometers and the like, and found out a lot from the engineers there .

So yes, some knowledge from memory, some from Google :), after all can't be expected to remember everything, the standards and specs are different now, they have TNZ numbers (Transit New Zealand) :thumbs:

Monty Holmans book 'Carapace, The Motorcar in New Zealand' which I read around 1980, from memory, describes the 2 part chip seal system and how it contributed to the development of NZ roads .
Terry Porritt (14)
455213 2006-05-21 06:41:00 Ah .... so our roads are *hit because we don't have approx 12 feet of basecourse, with the first layer laid by Romans !!

Let's send that information to LTSA and ask them to contact the Romans for assistance. :-P
Antmannz (6583)
455214 2006-05-21 08:39:00 Ah .... so our roads are *hit because we don't have approx 12 feet of base course, with the first layer laid by Romans !!

Let's send that information to LTSA and ask them to contact the Romans for assistance. :-P
Terry will be pleased that someone understands the proper technique,well done Ant.
Cicero (40)
455215 2006-05-21 23:35:00 Terry will be pleased that someone understands the proper technique,well done Ant.

Back in 3806 BC they were building wooden 'roads' in Somerset :)

www.eng-h.gov.uk

Edit: that book Carapace was by Holcroft, not Holman.
Terry Porritt (14)
455216 2006-05-21 23:47:00 Back in 3806 BC they were building wooden 'roads' in Somerset :)

www.eng-h.gov.uk

Edit: that book Carapace was by Holcroft, not Holman.
If you told young uns,they wouldn't believe you.
Cicero (40)
455217 2006-05-22 01:47:00 Back in 3806 BC they were building wooden 'roads' in Somerset :)

www.eng-h.gov.uk

Edit: that book Carapace was by Holcroft, not Holman.

Do you mean "corduroy"?
Winston001 (3612)
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