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Thread ID: 69216	2006-05-25 21:03:00	NZHerald Report on Slow Broadband Speeds	pctek (84)	PC World Chat

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457729	2006-05-26 02:48:00	yeah but they are not paying $$ to go at any set speed. one car doesn't get to drive faster because he pays more. motorway droving speeds are not a "customer service" provided by any company. different keetle of fish.	tweak'e (69)
457730	2006-05-26 02:53:00	Using the same theory as being applied to broadband: I pay plenty for my petrol and registration and paid for my driver's licence. I've also paid plenty in taxes, as have many other Aucklanders. If the limit is 100, then that's a speed I should reasonably expect to be able to attain. The internet has never been a "this is the speed you will get" kind-of thing. Even back in the 14.4 and 28.8 dial-up days, everything was based on "best-effort", not "guaranteed connection speed".	Antmannz (6583)
457731	2006-05-26 03:57:00	Thousands of people everyday can't reach the advertised speed limit on the North-Western motorway either, :D Really? Whats wrong with the NorthWestern? Its got some problem the Southern doesn't? And who can't? Didn't know there were that many Model Ts in Auckland attempting to travel the motorway regularly. :D	pctek (84)
457732	2006-05-26 04:26:00	The internet has never been a "this is the speed you will get" kind-of thing. Even back in the 14.4 and 28.8 dial-up days, everything was based on "best-effort", not "guaranteed connection speed". put it this way...... its like an ISP selling a 56k modem connection even tho their modems are only 28k, hence you will only get 28k connection dispite them advertising and billing you for a 56k. its their own gear that causeing the slow speed so it should at least be advertised and priced accodingly.	tweak'e (69)
457733	2006-05-26 05:01:00	I did as the Herald suggested and rang Telecom this morning. I am on Xtra "Explorer" which is supposed to be 3.5 Mg. Just before ringing I checked on both jetstreamgames and adsl.co.nz and was getting not too bad a connection, 1398 to 1475 kbps, but quite a bit less than paying for. The person I spoke to, "Hermit", tried to tell me that 80% of the problems have to do with long extension leads being used within the household and/or distance from the exchange. Only 5% are to do with contention issues. He did not seem to think that we are reading or listening to the media, or so it must be inferred ! He has asked me to check the speeds three times a day for 3 days to see if congestion is a factor, and report back. I will do but when you sit on the phone for twenty mins to wait to speak to someone it is very time wasting ! Misty :(	Misty (368)
457734	2006-05-26 05:08:00	Quote: Outlandish claims of New Zealand having a third-world system are grandstanding - the system works for the most part and it reaches almost every home in the nation, albeit a little slow for some. Wake up to yourself! And do your research before making nonsensical statements. :( Africa began deploying broadband xDSL,Sat & Cable services to West African Countries in 2002. www.itu.int Africa Online already offers a 1mbps Wireless service in Kenya. africaonline.com ADSL services have also been rolled out by incumbents in other countries, such as in Senegal or in Angola. And thus for N.Z in 2002 the only affordable solution was ISDN connection and we are "supposed" to be OECD Country. The current problems with stymied broadband speeds stem from Telecom applying a 150:1 contention ratio.That means for every 100mb strand coming from a 1gig line, this is divided between users.That therefore means that assuming all 150 slots are full on that link,the best you can expect is just short of 1mbps.Which is what the current feedback suggests. www.stuff.co.nz www.nzherald.co.nz Having said that.ISP's such as Ihug,Orcon,Slingshot & Telstra have already stated that there contention ratios will be around 33:1 which means every user is guaranteed there 3.5 mbps line speed :thumbs: And until the Govt unbundles we won't see good contention ratios until the other ISP's get to co-site there Dslams in Telecom exchanges.The long wait begins until early 2007 :badpc:	Utopia (7787)
457735	2006-05-27 02:05:00	I read this: Telecom uses a cost-effective Conklin or Mini DSLAM connection device. these devices are providing speeds of up to 1.9 megabits. In effect, customers more than 4km away from an exchange cannot currently get speeds higher than 2 megabits.So if one person was more than 4KM away from an exchange, and they wanted broadband will telecom install a MINI DSLAM or conklin straight away or do a certain number of people in that area have to subscribe so they'll install it?	lance4k (4644)
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