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Thread ID: 69868 2006-06-14 20:52:00 Cullen warns against large pay rises after getting 8.1pc BoboTheClown (5652) PC World Chat
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463132 2006-06-14 20:52:00 According to The NZ Herald he is now on $245,000.

I guess if I earned that kind of money then I could also "scrape by" without an increase this year...
BoboTheClown (5652)
463133 2006-06-15 04:48:00 But all politicians are hypocrites. He means no pay rises for the peasants. pctek (84)
463134 2006-06-15 05:19:00 The "robber barons" are in disguise now. zqwerty (97)
463135 2006-06-15 05:30:00 .......But he manages a budget far larger than Telecoms, yet only gets 1/10 of what Theresa is paid :) Terry Porritt (14)
463136 2006-06-15 05:42:00 So how much exactly should someone that controls the fiscal policy of our country be paid? superuser (7693)
463137 2006-06-15 06:26:00 Every year your employer does not match a "wage rise" by the cost of inflation, really means you are taking a pay cut. Retail and fast food workers are still basically paid what they were 15 years ago which is appalling when you considering inflation rate around 3% per year.


I remember 17 odd years ago when I was a school kid pushing trolleys , I was on $8 an hour at Supervalue AND penal rates of double on Saturday.

Now there are full time employees in supermarkets barely scraping $10 and hour with NO penal rates.

Hard to believe.
Battleneter (60)
463138 2006-06-15 06:32:00 So how much exactly should someone that controls the fiscal policy of our country be paid?

Probably not a lot, though they do put far many more hours of attendance in Parliament than they did years ago when Parliament only sat for a few weeks of the year.

As time has gone by, so governments of both persuasions feel that in order to govern and to be seen to be governing, they have to keep drafting and passing laws all the time. Laws that no one really wants, or that do no good, like microchipping dogs.

If all the politicians took a years break and no laws were passed, would anyone be the worse off?

Before Roger Douglas got stuck into the public service, then there were lots of civil servants that actually did all the work, that was why Parliament only had to sit a few weeks of the year :)

In the UK they had Sir Humphrey Appleby who made sure that the politicians were largely ineffective :thumbs:

www.bbc.co.uk

We need a few Sir Humphreys.
Terry Porritt (14)
463139 2006-06-15 07:59:00 So how much exactly should someone that controls the fiscal policy of our country be paid?

If they did what they were appointed for then they "may" be worth the cost of having them there in parliament making serious decisions with regards to running the country .

But the reality is that most of them are just there on a huge ego trip, and carry on like kids to try and impress the other kids around them . Good example is the whole issue about the NP's GST amendment bill . How many hours are wasted on this kind of rubbish, and at what salary costs to the tax payer?

Every year at budget time we have to hear about the billions of $ surplus, but a few weeks later as soon as spending on essentials like roading is questioned then all of a sudden there isn't money, and once again the man on the street have to bail them out with some or other indirect tax, the latest ploy this year being a yearly 5-7% increase in property rates for 10 years . Last year it was adding a 5c per litre fuel levy, what is it going to be next year?

The reality is that the averge man on the street is worse off year by year, increases do not keep up with all the taxes, levies, rates, interest rates, etc .

The only answer is to become a politician, at least you will get a regular increase at at least twice the yearly inflation rate .
BoboTheClown (5652)
463140 2006-06-15 08:46:00 Every year your employer does not match a "wage rise" by the cost of inflation, really means you are taking a pay cut. Retail and fast food workers are still basically paid what they were 15 years ago which is appalling when you considering inflation rate around 3% per year.

Exactly why there needs to be a youth union. There seems to be a lot of negative connotations surrounding the word 'union', and parents might be anti, but hell, I know from experience that kids are being destroyed in crappy low pay jobs. I work with somone that dropped out of school and has to work a 50 hour week just to get by because he's on youth rate. I don't agree with youths rampaging down queen st. on a school day, but I do agree with the formation of a youth union.
DangerousDave (697)
463141 2006-06-15 09:58:00 Having people who are ambitious, money hungry and ego filled economic zeolots rather than mature, experienced adults with a few grown up children under their belts, so that they have their priorities sorted out is what we need to run us and the country, unfortunately that is a pipe dream. Anybody who is the latter is too smart to try and repair the mess and unravel the Gordian Knot that 20 years of mismanagement have led us to.

Gordian Knot - Any very difficult problem; insoluble in its own terms
zqwerty (97)
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