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| Thread ID: 69812 | 2006-06-13 06:26:00 | Can any Sparkies give some advice please ? | drcspy (146) | PC World Chat |
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| 462726 | 2006-06-13 06:26:00 | HI and thanks for reading this..my wife and I have purchased this new oven: www.westinghouse.co.nz ..it's not delivered yet but it will be, now I've just noticed in the product sheet they gave us with the oven that it doesn't come with a wall plug but is needing to be 'hardwired'. Can someone tell me how much this is likely to cost. We already have a oven which connects to a large wall plug, the circuit breaker is 32amp. I'd appreciate if anyone can tell me WHY this oven doesn't come with a plug, (yes I rang the store and the guy unhelpfully told me basically 'thats the way it is'), and whats a guestimate to 'hardwire' it or can a plug be fitted and then it plugs straight into the wall ? |
drcspy (146) | ||
| 462727 | 2006-06-13 06:36:00 | [Note: I am not a sparkie] The easiest way is to get the electrician to wire your existing plug to your new oven, provided it is in the appropriate place. That way it is semi-hard-wired, but you can still unplug it to move it if need be. This can only happen if the existing plug/cable is all in good condition though. I recall about 5 years ago when we re-did our kitchen, I think the 25A socket, plug, and cable to go from the oven to the plug all up cost over $100 in parts alone, though we also had some other wiring done so I can't remember the exact figure.. |
somebody (208) | ||
| 462728 | 2006-06-13 06:39:00 | oh k.........errrrrrr. I knew somebody would have somthing to say about this ...... heheh... |
drcspy (146) | ||
| 462729 | 2006-06-13 06:49:00 | I agree. Get the sparkie to change over the existing plug and cable to the new stove. All stoves are "hard wired" in initial construction, the plug converts them to plug-in. Never seen one that comes with the range plug fitted yet unless it was done by the sparkie at the seller end by special request. Mind you I strenuously avoid such electrical work anyway. Its not always an easy DIY to fit the cable yourself either unless you understand the split-phase wiring that many ranges are factory designed for and how that needs to be bridged at the range end. Your "large plug" will likely be a 32 amp range socket. |
godfather (25) | ||
| 462730 | 2006-06-13 08:27:00 | Its not always an easy DIY to fit the cable yourself either unless you understand the split-phase wiring that many ranges are factory designed for and how that needs to be bridged at the range end. Not to mention the risks you face if you stuff it up - especially with that sort of current flowing through it.. |
somebody (208) | ||
| 462731 | 2006-06-13 21:01:00 | This may not apply to NZ standards, but I got a surprize on the last install of a 220v oven/countertop stove combo . The new rules call for hard-wire only . . . no plugs to get loose or have objects drop over the connectors in the male end of the plug, although I have never seen that happen . I think it's silly to go that way, but I guess it's just some "engineer" type sitting in an office deciding that his job performance is in doubt and he re-engineers some new rules and designs . What comes first: A bad engineer or a bad performance file? |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 462732 | 2006-06-14 01:01:00 | This may not apply to NZ standards, but I got a surprize on the last install of a 220v oven/countertop stove combo . The new rules call for hard-wire only . . . no plugs to get loose or have objects drop over the connectors in the male end of the plug, although I have never seen that happen . I think it's silly to go that way, but I guess it's just some "engineer" type sitting in an office deciding that his job performance is in doubt and he re-engineers some new rules and designs . What comes first: A bad engineer or a bad performance file?We're going the other way, houses are now wired with oven sockets, and new stoves are supposed to be available with plugs, or at least thats the idea, so that home owners can install a new oven without getting out the screwdriver and making a mess . |
personthingy (1670) | ||
| 462733 | 2006-06-14 01:13:00 | We're going the other way, houses are now wired with oven sockets, and new stoves are supposed to be available with plugs, or at least thats the idea, so that home owners can install a new oven without getting out the screwdriver and making a mess. Yeah..that seems to be the cycle youse guys are in noow..wait a few years and it'll all shift again and those installs will again be illegal and need to be changed again |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 462734 | 2006-06-14 01:25:00 | Yeah..that seems to be the cycle youse guys are in noow..wait a few years and it'll all shift again and those installs will again be illegal and need to be changed againI hope your wrong and we don't change back. At the moment its a right pain in the **** in all the old houses with about half a metre of cable (and shrinking) between the oven and the wall. The newer concept of treating an oven as a large portable/disposable appliance seems much more sensible. | personthingy (1670) | ||
| 462735 | 2006-06-14 07:24:00 | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The newer concept of treating an oven as a large portable/disposable appliance seems much more sensible . I agree . . . . . that's the right thing to say! I hate the job of converting them to hardwire here after all these years of recepticle-izing them . When one has to pull either out to service or clean, then you've gotta call an electrician or a home hobbiest . . . if you dare! In the US, only heavy amp appliances like these and A/C units and some clothes driers are 220v . Most people here are soundly afraid of 220v . |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
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